From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sat Mar 3 01:22:38 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:22:38 +0000 Subject: tofu namaz References: <3A8EE395.84587DBF@globalnet.hr> <003001c09923$036db380$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Message-ID: <3AA0475A.8661ECFC@globalnet.hr> Hrvoje Nezic wrote: > > pola kocke (oko 100 g) i dvije jusne zlicoe maslinovog. Ono daje > > 'tezinu', stavljaj ga koliko ti pase. > > Zar ne bi ipak trebalo ulje koristiti u manjim kolicinama > (po makrobiotici)? Eh Hrvoje, oprosti, ovu poruku uopce nisam primjetio kad je stigla... Ne znam kako! Mislim - trebalo bi odgovoriti, mozda netko bude imao koristi od toga, a i lista je potpuno zamrla... S onim sam mislio reci: "variraj kolicinu po volji oko 2 zlice". Zapravo se ne sjecam jesam li u makrobiot. negdje cuo o preporucljivim kolicinama ulja. To mi vise ide uz neke klasicne preporuke, dijete i sl. Ja sam mrsav i dobro podnosim ulje, dakle mogu ga dodati vise. A i problem je u tome sto je jako tesko uopce reci neke kolicine jer se sve dodaje 'od oka'. Ali u makrobiot. kazu da se takav namaz uopce ne bi trebao previse koristiti, odn. da se kruh ne bi trebao previse konzumirati. Manje pecene zitarice, vise kuhane. Osim toga, kruh sadrzi aditive itd. Osim ako ga sam ne ispeces, a i onda koristis brasno iz ducana, od umjetno gnojene psenice. K tome, ako bi nesto u obroku ide previse u neku stranu (u ovom slucaju masno), u makrobiot. kazu da se doda namirnica suprotnog karaktera da bi se obrok uravnotezio. Eto samo toliko, detalje ni sam ne znam puno bolje... Ivan From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sat Mar 3 08:45:54 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:45:54 +0100 Subject: Sastanak Message-ID: <001901c0a3be$810e0fb0$0f2cfea9@envox.hr> Sutra, u nedjelju planiramo sastanak u novom prostoru, Gunduliceva 21a u podrumu. Vrijeme: 17:30. Za provjeru mozete se javiti meni na 6252 987 ili Domagoju na 62 11 95 ili na mobitel 091 5397 222. Pozdrav, Hrvoje From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sat Mar 3 09:49:36 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (makroveganka tea) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:49:36 +0100 Subject: cipele References: <200102251426.PAA20713@atila.irb.hr> Message-ID: <007a01c0a3f0$22d46fc0$7a811dc3@ONYX> cao kornelija. > Takoder bi zamolila da mi netko ponovi kako mogu > naruciti one cesto spominjane slape od kukurozovin cipele ili papuce od kukuruzovine mozes naruciti od mene. javi se privatno pa specificiraj sto zelis. cujemo se. love, teo. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 4 12:20:03 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:20:03 +0100 Subject: HELP US MAKE AIRBUS THINK TWICE! Message-ID: <019801c0a4a5$7166de60$32a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> The International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) and a coalition of German Non Governmental Organizations have launched a campaign to stop Airbus Industrie from building a new factory in the largest remaining freshwater tidal wetlands in Europe. The Mühlenberger Loch, located in Hamburg, Germany, is protected under three international agreements: it is a wetland of international importance under the Ramsar Convention, a Special Protected Area under the European Union Bird Directive, and a habitat protected under the European Union Habitats Directive. This ecosystem is a critical stopover for more than 70 species of migratory birds, and is of international importance for three bird species. Airbus Industrie claims it needs to build a new facility in Mühlenberger Loch so it can construct the A380, a new super jumbo airplane. However, the A380 will be almost completely constructed in Toulouse, France. The Mühlenberger Loch plant would only install carpet,paint and seats. The City of Hamburg is paying hundreds of millions of dollars to fill in 420 acres (170 hectares) of precious wetlands so that Airbus will build its new facility there. It makes absolutely no sense -- economically or environmentally -- to destroy valuable wildlife habitat in order to add a few cosmetic touches to a virtually completed aircraft. If the Mühlenberger Loch is destroyed, very few areas protected under Ramsar or the European Union's directives will be safe. The construction equipment is on site now! You can help save the Mühlenberger Loch. Please send your message to the following Airbus Industrie executives immediately and tell them to stop the destruction of this irreplaceable wetland habitat, and send a copy to your friends, asking them to do the same. rainer.hertrich@eads-nv.com philippe.camus@eads-nv.com christian.poppe@eads-nv.com Thank you. IFAW http://www.airbusthinktwice.com/english/index.html From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 4 12:59:26 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:59:26 +0100 Subject: Norway: Helicopter in wolf slaughter Message-ID: <022e01c0a4aa$f1ba7c20$32a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> IMPORTANT !!! I JUST GOT MESSAGE : AN HELICOPTER IS ON THE WAY TO THE KILLING GROUND !! We have put pressure on the first helicopter firm who flew the killers so they have pulled of and wont participate anymore. The second firm (Who flew when they murdered the two females ) was tryed to be keept secret but i found out who they where. The name is Pegasus as. and we have started an email action against them and their customers . If you got the the time, and wants to do this is the adress to Pegasus as http://www.pegasus-as.no/start.htm (website) Email : firmapost@pegasus-as.no strid@pegasus-as.no svensson@pegasus-as.no telefax to +47 64 81 92 01 Phones:+47 64 81 92 04 /+47 957 42 685, +47 63 97 76 81 / +47 906 25368, +4764 81 92 05 /+47 906 25 630. THIS IS SOME OF THEIR CUSTOMERS: - Forshaga MUNICIPALLY (Sweden) ( Epost: : miljoochbyggnadsnamnden@forshaga.se | URL: http://www.forshaga.se/ ) - Forbo Forshaga ( Epost: info@forbo.se ) - NRK (Norwgian state broadcasting)( Epost: ut.i.naturen@nrk.no | URL: http://www3.nrk.no/ ) - NORWAY BERTEL O. STEEN A/S ( www.bertelosteen.no )(URL: www.peugeot.com ) - Norwegian Conoco ( EPOST + URL: http://www.conoco.com/news/nr/contact/index.asp ) - Shell ( URL: http://www.shell.com/no-no/0,4274,,00.html ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would be werry helpfull if you could spread this adresses and info to as many as you can !! JOINT ACTION FOR WOLVES: http://ulv.rovik.org/ BANKACOUNT1822.08.69985 Fellesaksjonen for Ulv Sparebanken Hedmark 2560 Alvdal Takk for hjelpen, Svein Sųrli "A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller." --Edward Hoagland, Red Wolves and Black Bears Alpha-gruppen www.alpha-gruppen.com Foreningen Våre Rovdyr www.fvr.no Naturvernf. Oslo&Akersh. www.noa.no Verdens naturfond www.wwf.no "The Earth isn't dying, it's being killed. And those who are killing it have names and addresses." From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 4 14:43:53 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:43:53 +0100 Subject: WOLF IS JUST BEEN SHOOT Message-ID: <006201c0a4b9$894ffe80$32a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> FROM HELICOPTER OWNED BY PEGASUS AS. THE WOLF WAS WOUNDED AND RUNNED SEVERAL HUNDRED METERS BEFORE IT WAS KILLED. WE GOT VIDEO FROM THE SCENE TAKEN OF ONE OF OUR ACTIVISTS PLEASE CONTACT PEGASUS AT : firmapost@pegasus-as.no AND TELL THEM TO STOP!!! Email : firmapost@pegasus-as.no strid@pegasus-as.no svensson@pegasus-as.no telefax to +47 64 81 92 01 Phones:+47 64 81 92 04 /+47 957 42 685, +47 63 97 76 81 / +47 906 25368, +4764 81 92 05 /+47 906 25 630. FELLESAKSJONEN FOR ULV: http://ulv.rovik.org/ Vil du sende penger kan du bruke kontonummer 1822.08.69985 Fellesaksjonen for Ulv Sparebanken Hedmark 2560 Alvdal Takk for hjelpen, Svein Sųrli "A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller." --Edward Hoagland, Red Wolves and Black Bears Alpha-gruppen www.alpha-gruppen.com Foreningen Våre Rovdyr www.fvr.no Naturvernf. Oslo&Akersh. www.noa.no Verdens naturfond www.wwf.no "The Earth isn't dying, it's being killed. And those who are killing it have names and addresses." From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 4 22:39:02 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:39:02 +0000 Subject: prostor + izvjestaj Message-ID: <3AA2C404.B6A36D81@globalnet.hr> Bok svima, Veceras smo konacno kolektivno pogledali prostoriju date nam od strane ASH-ovog Bojana (bili Taric, Tally, Hrvoje, Kornelija, Stjepan, Neven, jos par novih ljudi koje ne upoznah, i ja). Podrumska soba je OK, oko 10 m2 (znaci ne prevelika), jedino nama uticnice pa cemo morati sprovesti struju iz susjedne napustene kuhinje. Najbitnije je da smo dobili KLJUC i dozvolu samostalnog koristenja do 22 svakim danom. Svi sastanci, dogovori, pripreme akcija i transparenata, itd ce se od sada odvijati u NASOJ prostoriji! Pitanje koje se sada namece je kako do osnovne opreme za funkcioniranje: stolaca, nekog starog kompjutera, printera i faxa... Sve ideje i kontakti za moguca doniranja / rashodovanja su vise nego dobrodosli! U UTORAK (preksutra, 06. 03.) imamo farbanje zidova, da prostorija moze profunkcionirati. Pomoc dobrodosla. Dogovor u 17 h kod knjizare na Jelacicevom trgu, moze se provjeriti kod Domagoja na 621 195 ili 091 5397 222. U tjednu iza ovog (kroz 10-ak dana) ce se vjerojatno dogoditi jedna projekcija u MAMI sa malim razgovorom, tj. predstavljanjem nas zainteresiranima i skupljanjem istih. I dalje ide info- stand na Cvjetnom svakog petka i subote koji gura Taric zvan Domagoj + svatko tko naidje. Pozdrav, Ivan From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 4 22:39:44 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:39:44 +0000 Subject: Anapurna Message-ID: <3AA2C42D.EE4D4ED6@globalnet.hr> Evo podatako koje je par ljudi trazilo: "Anapurna" (Vlatka & Miro) osim tofua, sejtana, tofu namaza itd, rade i isporucuju cijele ruckove. Recite im sto zelite, mislim da rade i veganski i obicno vegetarijanski (sa mlijekom). Telefoni su 4818 508 30 10 915 From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 5 11:36:36 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:36:36 +0100 Subject: pravo na zivot Message-ID: <016901c0a568$8a30a700$4aa871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> VAZNA NAPOMENA! Kad procitate ovu poruku i potpisete se na kraju liste NE VRACAJTE JE NA ADRESU od koje ste je dobili. Svrha je naime da dodate svoj potpis a poruku proslijedite DALJE drugim ljudima koji ce se potpisati, te onaj koji bude 300-ti posalje sve skupa na nize navedenu adresu. Znaci nikakve svrhe vracati poruku ovamo, nama koji smo se vec potpisali. Pisem to jer smo ranije imali slicnih poruka koje su pravile pravi mess na listama. Hvala. PRAVO NA ZIVOT Dragi prijatelji, molim vas nemojte ignorirati ovu poruku. Govori o necemu s cime se svi mi, muskarci i zene, moramo suociti. Ne znam hoce li ova inicijativa necemu posluziti, ali poklonite joj tri minute svog dragocjenog vremena i obavite vasu duznost. Madhu, lada Afganistana, pokrenula je rat protiv zena. Od 1996, kada su Talibani dosli na vlast, zene su bivale javno premlacivane i kamenovane jer nisu nosile propisanu odjecu, iako je to znacilo jednostavno ne pokrivati oci na propisani nacin. Jedna je zena bila pretucena na smrt od gomile bijesnih fundamentalista jer je slucajno otkrila ruku dok je vozila. Druga je bila kamenovana jer je pokusala napustiti zemlju sa covjekom koji joj nije bio nista u rodu. Zenama nije dopusteno raditi niti se pojavljivati na javnom mjestu bez muskog rodjaka; profesionalke poput uciteljica, prevoditeljica, lijecnica, odvjetnica, umjetnica i spisateljica, bile su prisiljene napustiti posao i zatvarane su u svojim kucama. Zgrade u kojima zive zene moraju imati obojana stakla na prozorima tako da se izvana nista ne vidi. Moraju nositi tihu obucu tako da ih nikad nije cuti. Zene zive u strahu za svoj zivot kojeg mogu izgubiti zbog najmanjeg prekrsaja. Buduci da nesmiju raditi, one koje nemaju muza ili muske rodjake umiru od gladi ili prose po ulici iako posjeduju sveucilisnu diplomu. Depresija postaje toliko rasirena pojava dostizuci alarmantnu razinu. Nema nacina, u zajednici koja se do te mjere vodi islamskim zakonom da se sigurno dozna postotak samoubojstava, ali oni koji rade u zemlji procjenjuju da je postotak samoubojstava medju zenama, koje nemaju nacina ostvariti prikladno lijecenje svoje duboke depresije a oduzele bi si zivot samo da ne zive u takvim uvjetima, znacajno povecan. Zdravstvena skrb za zene izostaje gotovo u cijelosti. U jednoj od rijetkih bolnica za zene jedan je novinar na krevetima nasao nepokretna tijela gotovo potpuno bezivotna, umotani u "burqua", bez zelje za razgovorom, jelom ili bilo cime, kako se polako trose. Druge su zene poludjele i bivale vidjane scucurene u nekom kutu neprestalno se ljuljajuci u suzama, vecina kojih je bivala zlostavljana. Jedan je lijecnik dosao na ideju, ostavsi bez ono malo lijekova na raspolaganju, da ostavi te zene ispred predsjednicke rezidencije u znak protesta. Dosli smo do tocke gdje izraz "krsenje ljudskih prava" najbolje opisuje stvarnost. Muskarci upravljaju zivotom i smrcu zena koje su im u rodu, u prvom redu svojih supruga, ali razularena gomila ima isto tako pravo kamenovati ili zatuci zenu, cesto do smrti, jer je otkrila par centimetara koze ili ako se ucini da je nekog nerazumljivo uvrijedila. Zene su uzivale relativnu slobodu, od mogucnosti zaposlenja, odjevanja vise ili manje po zelji, smjele su voziti i pojavljivati se same u javnosti sve do 1996. Brzina tranzicije je glavni razlog depresije i samoubojstava; zene koje su bile odgajateljice, lijecnice ili jednostavno naucene na najosnovnije slobode sada su vrlo ogranicene i tretirane poput podljudskih bica u ime islamskog fundamentalizma. Ne radi se o njihovoj tradiciji ili "kulturi", nego o necem stranom, sto je ekstremno cak i za one kulture u kojima je fundamentalizam pravilo. Svatko ima pravo na ljudski podnosljiv zivot, pa bila to i zena u muslimanskoj drzavi. Ako mozemo prijetiti upotrebom vojne sile na Kosovu u ime ljudskih prava a u korist albanskog naroda, gradjani svijeta mogu sigurno na miran nacin pokazati svoju ljutnju zbog ugnjetavanja, ubojstava i nepravdi ucinjene zenama od strane Talibana. ZAHTJEV: Potpisujuci ovu peticiju suglasni smo smatrati sadasnje postupanje prema zenama u Afganistanu potpuno NEPRIHVATLJIVIM i vrijednim intervencije od strane Ujedinjenih Naroda. Situacija u Afganistanu nece se tolerirati. Prava zena nisu ni u kom slucaju sporedni problem te je NEPRIHVATLJIVO da su zene u 2000-toj tretirane poput podljudskih bica i poput necijeg vlasnistva. Jednakost i ljudsko dostojanstvo su PRAVO a ne sloboda, zivio netko u Afganistanu ili negdje drugdje. Potpisi: 1) Monica Zoppe. Milano. Italy 2) Andrea Buzzi, Milano, Italy 3) Roberto Furlan, Milano, Italy 4) Rachele Dottori, Milano, Italy 5) Alessia Corpino, Rome, Italy 6) Maria Solange Auteri, Rome, Italy 7) Arianna Schiavoni, Roma, Italy 8) Marco Di Luzio, Roma, Italy 9) David Vicario, Roma, Italy 10) Alessandra Catalani, Rome, Italy 11) Silvia Catalani, Rome, Italy 12) Gianluca Cerlini, Latina, Italy 13) Junior Silvestro Pomenti,Latina,Italy 14) Elisa Pomenti,Latina,Italy 15) Luciana Abenda,Latina,Italy 16) Elisabetta Muraglia, Latina, Italy 17) Stefano Giancola, Latina, ITALY 18) Rita Scipioni, Frascati(Rm) ITALY 19) Roberta Guerrieri, Roma, Italy 20) Paola Sabbatini, Frascati(Rm), Italy 21) Dominique Katsers, Rome, Italy 22) Karina De Castris, Rome, Italy 23) Fabrizio Fiorini, Frascati(Rm), Italy 24) Enrico Colagrossi, Roma, Italia 25) Lorena Coppola (Na), Italy 26) Emanuele Coppola, Torino, Italy 27) Stefania Galli, Torino, Italy 28) Antonietta Greco, Torino,Italy 29) Gandin Luca, Torino, Italy 30) Deborah Lucchetti, Torino, Italy 31) Anna Chiesa, Torino, Italy 32) Alfonso Zuccala, Lecce, Italy 33) Orsola Fornara, Roma, Italy 34) Chiara Magri, Torino, Italy 35) Giannalberto Bendazzi, Milan, Italy 36) Marcello Acquarone, Parma, Italy 37) Alfonso Romano, Salerno, Italy 38) Mimmo Zappia, Milano, Italy 39) Manuela Colombo, Milano, Italy 40) Marco Piccioni, Roma, Italy 41) Raffaella Bedini, Roma, Italy 42) Massimiliano Pomponi, Roma, Italy 43) Alessio Valente, Roma, Italy 44) Claudio Sandroni, Roma, Italy 45) Aldo Sodero, Torino, Italy 46) Giulio Radeschi, Torino, Italy 47) Roberto Recupero, Torino, Italy 48) Alvisa Palese, Udine (Italy) 49) Rodolfo Sbrojavacca, Udine (Italy) 50) Daniele Coen, Milano (Italy) 51) Carlo Locatelli, Pavia, Italy 52) Daniela Fasola, Milano, Italy 53) Raffaella Butera, Pavia. Italy 54) Franck Jacazio, Biella, Italy 55) Maria Luisa Farina, Bergamo, Italy 56) Anna Cristina Sacchetta, Milano, Italy 57) Anna Maria Graf, Saronno (VA), Italy 58) Antonella Rava, Novate Mil.se (MI) Italiy 59) Elisabetta Rivolta Milano Italy 60) Sara Ricciardi, Mialno, Italy 61) Luca Dotti, Roma, Italy 62) Manuela Simonelli, Paris, France 63) Gianluca Simonelli, Reggio Emilia, Italy 64) Irene Volpi, Firenze, Italy 65) Mauro Nocentini, Firenze, Italy 66) Luca Nicolandi Torino Italy 67) Fulvio Poncini 68) Ludovica Fontana 69) Eleonora Arduino Torino Italy 70) Lucilla Bua, Brescia, Italy 71) Gianna Scutra, Brescia, Italy 72) Alessandra Frizza, Brescia, Italy 73) Paola Turrini, Brescia, Italy 74) Anna Cantarelli, Brescia, Italy 75) Elisabetta Luzzardi, Brescia, Italy 76) Rosetta Crosatti, Brescia, Italy 77) Onorina Liotta, Brescia, Italy 78) Rossella Ribera, Brescia, Italy 79) Maria Grazia Merletti, Brescia, Italy 80) Tina Bonante, Brescia, Italy 81) Marzia De Alexandris, Tarquinia Italy 82) Patrizio Zanazzo, Tarquinia Italy 83) Amelia Pisante, Brescia, Italy 84) Tatiana Colombo, Brescia, Italy 85) Renata Tafuri, Brescia, Italy 86) Gianriccardo Fraccaroli, Brescia, Italy 87) Vittorio Palumbo, Brescia, Italy 88) Pierluigi Pattini, Brescia, Italy 89) Giampietro Guiotto, Brescia, Italy 90) Gabriele Faviani, Brescia, Italy 91) Adriana Cappellotti, Brescia, Italy 92) Alessandra De Felice, Brescia, Italy 93) Gisella Ronchi, Brescia, Italy 94) Giusi Belfiore, Brescia, Italy 95) Gabriela Carsana, Brescia, Italy 96) Rosanna Conforti, Brescia, Italy 97) Dora Cavagnis, Brescia, Italy 98) Valeria Catalano, Brescia, Italy 99) Sandra Bastiani, Brescia, Italy 100) Maria Bonsignori, Brescia, Italy 101) Luana Borgia, Brescia, Italy 102) Elda Brignoli, Brescia, Italy 103) Mario Catalano, Brescia, Italy 104) Enrico Catalano, Brescia, Italy 105) Carla Cervi, Brescia, Italy 106) Sara Marini, Brescia, Italy 107) Piera Cortassa, Varazze, Italy 108) Cesare Merigo, Brescia, Italy 109) Monica Capra, Brescia, Italy 110) Riccardo Donadio, Brescia, Italy 111) Angela Palazzi, Brescia, Italy 112) Mara De Feo, Brescia, Italy 113) Elvira Anni, Brescia, Italy 114) Eugenio Segnali, Brescia, Italy 115) Gabriella Villafontana, Brescia, Italy 116) Umberto Favretto, Brescia, Italy 117) Maria Frozzi, Brescia, Italy 118) Silvia Fioretti, Brescia, Italy 119) Lucia Giannelli, Brescia, Italy 120) Lucia Faini, Brescia, Italy 121) Milena Giaroli, Brescia, Italy 122) Gianni Joffredi, Brescia, Italy 123) Luisella Corallini, Brescia, Italy 124) Aldina Lamonti, Brescia, Italy 125) Daniela Ardigo, Brescia, Italy 126) Gabriele Rigosa, Brescia, Italy 127) Luciana Compagnoni, Brescia, Italy 128) Massimo Gobbini, Brescia, Italy 129) Marina Dotti, Brescia, Italy 130) Enrica Merigo, Brescia, Italy 131) Giuseppe Merigo, Brescia, Italy 132) Raffaella Marcarini, Iseo, Italy 133) Pina Manenti, Cesano Boscone, Italy 134) Lina Maiorano, Milano, Italy 135) Daniela massarelli, Brescia, Italy 136) Angela Martini, Brescia, Italy 137) Osvaldo Martini, Brescia, Italy 138) Clara Marengoni, Brescia, Italy 139) Bruna Mercaldo, Brescia, Italy 140) Donatella Braga, Brescia, Italy 141) Adriano Nichele, Brescia, Italy 142) Nucci Gosio Gilardoni, Brescia, Italy 143) Maria Bonometti, Brescia, Italy 144) Anna Faita, Brescia, Italy 145) Arturo Dentamaro, Parigi, Francia 146) Josianne Dentamaro, Parigi, Francia 147) Ita Petronio, Brescia, Italy 148) Yvette Patroncini, Travagliato, Italy 149) Alessandra Torcia, Cremona, Italy 150) Rosanna Lucchetti, Brescia, Italy 151) Rosa Pedo, Brescia, Italy 152) Livia Sabotti, Brescia, Italy 153) Patrizia Scutra, Flero, Italy 154) Maria Pia Scalori, Brescia, Italy 155) Paolo Tanzi, Brescia, Italy 156) Eleonora Usai, Brescia, Italy 157) Wanda Anni, Cologne, Italy 158) Yvonne Valcamonico, Brescia, Italy 159) Luigi Cerritelli, Brescia, Italy 160) Daniele Paderas, Carbonia (CA), Italy 161) Katja Scherillo, Bacoli (Na), italy 162) Francesca De Cristofaro, Roma, Italy 163) Giovanni Carassiti, Bologna, Italy 164) Anna Russo, Napoli, Italia 165) Anna d'Onofrio, Italia 166) Claudio Mancuso, Italia 167) Massimo Ramondini, Italia 168) Elio Ramondini, Milano, Italia 169) Marco Maria Maiga, Italia 170) Silvia Baudi, Milano, Italia 171) Filippo Grisolia, Milano, Italia 172) Vittorio Borraccetti, Roma, Italia 173) Giovanni De Donato, Roma, Italia 174)Nicoletta Billi, Milano, Italia 175) Iris Bachar, Roma, Italia 176) Elvira Castellano, Roma, Italia 177) Renata Ferri, Roma, Italia 178)Caterina Misiti, Milano, Italia 179) Luisa Bertolini, Italia 180) Maria Luisa Donati, Merano, Italia 181) Giuseppe Albertoni, Merano, Italia 182) Gabriella Lombardo ,Italia 183)Silvana Moscatelli, Brescia, Italia, 184)Giuliana Pederzoli, Brescia, Italia 185) Daniela Longinotti, Brescia, Italia 186) Marili Cammarata, Trieste (Italia) 187) Paola Sannino, Trieste (Italia) 188) Espana Nini, Trieste (Italia) 189)Larisa Slavic, Rijeka (Croatia) 190)Dino Alberini Rijeka (Croatia) 191) Karol Visinko, Rijeka (Croatia) 192) Dubravka Tezak, Zagreb (Croatia) 193) Divina Marion, Zagreb (Croatia) 194) Dejan Palic, Zagreb (Croatia) 195) Ivna Kirincic-Palic, Zagreb (Croatia) 196) Ivna Tomaskovic, Zagreb, Hrvatska (Croatia) 197) Zeljka Volf, Zagreb, Hrvatska 198) Zrinka Zganec, Karlovac, Croatia 199) Tatjana Susic, Karlovac, Croatia 200) Jasminka Jakupek, Zagreb, Croatia 201) Nevenka Gagic, Zagreb, Croatia 202) Radojka Kuhar, Zagreb, Croatia 203) Branka Bosanac, Zagreb, Croatia 204) Zeljka Medven, Zagreb, Croatia 205) Jasmina Radulj, Zagreb, Croatia 206) Jasmina Mujkanovic, Zagreb, Croatia 207) Zorica Benci, Zagreb, Croatia 208) Margareta Isaksson, Lulea, Sweden MOLIM TE KOPIRAJ ovu poruku, potpisi se na kraju i proslijedi na sve svoje adrese. Ako dobijes ovu listu sa vise od 300 potpisa, molim te posalji jednu kopiju na adresu: sarabande@brandeis.edu Ako se odlucis i ne potpisati molim te proslijedi peticiju dalje. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 5 14:11:04 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:11:04 +0100 Subject: taric se vraca kuci Message-ID: <006a01c0a57f$d9a25ce0$1682bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C0A586.7F606B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Eto, nakon kraceg odmora od liste sam se vratio jer je tako lakse = dogovarati stvari i koordinirati akcije. Jucer je bio sastanak i imamo = dosta stvari koje treba raditi. Prvo, iskopirao sam kljuc tako da imamo svoj primjerak, njima sam njihov = vratio. Uglavnom, sutra u 17:00 su tamo radovi pa tko moze dobrodosao = je... Drugo, akcija potpisivanja peticija za uvodenje vegetarijanskih obroka u = javne institucije je u tijeku, svakog petka i subote. Do kraja ovog = mjeseca smo tamo jos cetiri puta, a nakon toga idemo na Importanne = centar i malo blize glavnom trgu i to sa dva stola istovremeno. To je = volja!!! A pomoc je veoma potrebna... Prikupili smo nekoliko stotina potpisa i sramimo se pred Norcem i HDZom = jer i jedni i drugi imaju sesteroznamenkaste brojke potpisanih, a mi = svega nekoliko metara dalje doslovno hvatamo ljude da potpisu, jer = nevjerojatno je koliko ljude 'odbija' i vrijeda rijec 'vegetarijanizam'. = Ali ono sto je mnogo vaznije jest da smo prikupili adrese i emailove od = nekih tridesetak ljudi koji su zainteresirani za 'vise informacija o = nasim predavanjima, seminarima, akcijama i publikacijama' kako je to = Tally lijepo srocio. Za sve njih, ali i ljude koji su nam se inace = javili organizirat cemo jednu projekciju u MAMA (najvjerojatnije) i = lagani uvod u udrugu kako bi se mogli odluciti zele li pristupiti. To ce = se dogoditi pocetkom iduceg tjedna. Osim toga smo u kontaktu s nekoliko grupa diljem lijepe nase i = namjeravamo organizirati nacionalnu kampanju za uvodenje vege obroka u = javne institucije. Javlja se jako puno ljudi koji to zele podrzati i = sudjelovati u tome pa se nadam nekim lijepim promjenama u kuhinjama = javnih institucija. Danas sam dobio paket iz Dubrovnika u kojem je PREVEDENI prirucnik za = roditelje vegance?!? Nisam pojma imao da postoji veganska grupa u = Dubrovniku i da su tako dobro organizirani. Osim tog prirucnika bio je i = primjerak fanzina The vegan od Vegan Society i nekoliko knjiga = (spiritualnih) o suosjecajnom zivotu. Sve u svemu - ODLICNO i poslat cu = nazad nase materijale i jedno pismo kojeg u ovom paketu na zalost nije = bilo. :(( A jucer smo Hrvoje i ja bili na sastanku u vegansko/vegetarijanskom = restoranu i centru od udruge SRZ Zivota, koji se trenutno otvara. = Uglavnom, imamo mogucnost koristenja opreme koja mi se cini jako jako = dobrom i ono sto je pomalo nevjerojatno, a to je mogucnost BESPLATNOG = titliranja filmova, sto znaci da uzmemo strane filmove i sami ih = prevedemo i titliramo. Sta ces vise?!? To je sto se tice novosti, a ima i nekoliko stvari koje su zapocete = prije a sada se dovrsavaju ili doraduju. Kisa me sprijecila da odem do = gradskog poglavarstva, ali u srijedu cu otici tamo i pogledati o cemu se = radi i kako da osnujemo udrugu. Knjiga 'Kako postati i ostati vegetarijanac' je pri kraju i vec = sljedeceg mjeseca bi mogla izaci. Kao i newsletter.=20 Kako sam uzeo odmor od liste posvetio sam se nekim drugim stvarima koje = je trebalo napraviti. Sad kad sam usao u dir lako cu nastaviti. = Volonteri, cekam vas... :)) Bilo bi dobro da se dogovorimo za jedan kraci sastanak ovog tjedan radi = osnivacke skupstine i bilo bi dobro da stalni termini sastanaka budu = subotom predvecer. Eto, to je to... Pozdrav, Domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C0A586.7F606B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Eto, nakon kraceg odmora od liste sam = se vratio jer=20 je tako lakse dogovarati stvari i koordinirati akcije. Jucer je bio = sastanak i=20 imamo dosta stvari koje treba raditi.
 
Prvo, iskopirao sam kljuc tako da imamo = svoj=20 primjerak, njima sam njihov vratio. Uglavnom, sutra u 17:00 su tamo = radovi pa=20 tko moze dobrodosao je...
 
Drugo, akcija potpisivanja peticija za = uvodenje=20 vegetarijanskih obroka u javne institucije je u tijeku, svakog petka i = subote.=20 Do kraja ovog mjeseca smo tamo jos cetiri puta, a nakon toga idemo na = Importanne=20 centar i malo blize glavnom trgu i to sa dva stola istovremeno. To je = volja!!! A=20 pomoc je veoma potrebna...
 
Prikupili smo nekoliko stotina potpisa = i sramimo se=20 pred Norcem i HDZom jer i jedni i drugi imaju sesteroznamenkaste brojke=20 potpisanih, a mi svega nekoliko metara dalje doslovno hvatamo ljude da = potpisu,=20 jer nevjerojatno je koliko ljude 'odbija' i vrijeda rijec = 'vegetarijanizam'.=20
 
Ali ono sto je mnogo vaznije jest da = smo prikupili=20 adrese i emailove od nekih tridesetak ljudi koji su zainteresirani za = 'vise=20 informacija o nasim predavanjima, seminarima, akcijama i publikacijama' = kako je=20 to Tally lijepo srocio. Za sve njih, ali i ljude koji su nam se inace = javili=20 organizirat cemo jednu projekciju u MAMA (najvjerojatnije) i lagani uvod = u=20 udrugu kako bi se mogli odluciti zele li pristupiti. To ce se dogoditi = pocetkom=20 iduceg tjedna.
 
Osim toga smo u kontaktu s nekoliko = grupa diljem=20 lijepe nase i namjeravamo organizirati nacionalnu kampanju za uvodenje = vege=20 obroka u javne institucije. Javlja se jako puno ljudi koji to zele = podrzati i=20 sudjelovati u tome pa se nadam nekim lijepim promjenama u kuhinjama = javnih=20 institucija.
 
Danas sam dobio paket iz Dubrovnika u = kojem je=20 PREVEDENI prirucnik za roditelje vegance?!? Nisam pojma imao da postoji = veganska=20 grupa u Dubrovniku i da su tako dobro organizirani. Osim tog prirucnika = bio je i=20 primjerak fanzina The vegan od Vegan Society i nekoliko knjiga = (spiritualnih) o=20 suosjecajnom zivotu. Sve u svemu - ODLICNO i poslat cu nazad nase = materijale i=20 jedno pismo kojeg u ovom paketu na zalost nije bilo. :((
 
A jucer smo Hrvoje i ja bili na = sastanku u=20 vegansko/vegetarijanskom restoranu i centru od udruge SRZ Zivota, koji = se=20 trenutno otvara. Uglavnom, imamo mogucnost koristenja opreme koja mi se = cini=20 jako jako dobrom i ono sto je pomalo nevjerojatno, a to je mogucnost = BESPLATNOG=20 titliranja filmova, sto znaci da uzmemo strane filmove i sami ih = prevedemo i=20 titliramo. Sta ces vise?!?
 
To je sto se tice novosti, a ima i = nekoliko stvari=20 koje su zapocete prije a sada se dovrsavaju ili doraduju. Kisa me = sprijecila da=20 odem do gradskog poglavarstva, ali u srijedu cu otici tamo i pogledati o = cemu se=20 radi i kako da osnujemo udrugu.
 
Knjiga 'Kako postati i ostati = vegetarijanac' je pri=20 kraju i vec sljedeceg mjeseca bi mogla izaci. Kao i newsletter. =
 
Kako sam uzeo odmor od liste posvetio = sam se nekim=20 drugim stvarima koje je trebalo napraviti. Sad kad sam usao u dir lako = cu=20 nastaviti. Volonteri, cekam vas... :))
 
Bilo bi dobro da se dogovorimo za jedan = kraci=20 sastanak ovog tjedan radi osnivacke skupstine i bilo bi dobro da stalni = termini=20 sastanaka budu subotom predvecer. Eto, to je to...
 
Pozdrav,
Domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C0A586.7F606B80-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 5 14:31:40 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:31:40 +0100 Subject: Fw: ANIMAL RIGHTS ONLINE Alert for Action! - Part 2 - Issue # 03/05/01 Message-ID: <000201c0a581$e7bbe970$f8ddfea9@VIVA> ANIMAL RIGHTS ONLINE Alert for Action! Part 2 of 2 *“`³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“`*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`“`*:»«:*³ ¤³ “`³¤³“`³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«: Stop Practice of Blazing Sugar Cane Fields SEND TO: Robert A. Dolson, CEO U.S. Sugar Corporation 111 Ponce de Leon Avenue Clewiston, FL 33440 Tel.: 863-983-8121 Fax: 863-983-4804 You can also submit comments online at: http://www.ussugar.com Alfonso Fanjul, CEO Florida Crystals Corporate Headquarters P.O. Box 1059 Palm Beach, FL 33480 Tel.: 561-655-6303 Fax: 561-659-9846 You can also submit comments online at: http://www.floridacrystals.com/contact/ To fax letters for free, go to: www.free2fax.com Dear ________________, I was horrified to learn of a common practice of blazing sugar cane fields in South Florida. I am writing to you to urge you to end this horrific practice immediately. The practice made national news when a tourist recently rescued a badly burned rabbit from a blazing sugar cane field in South Florida. Hundreds of rabbits on fire ran onto a highway, screaming in pain. The burn victim was immediately taken to a wildlife rehabilitation center but died the next day due to the severity of her burns. I understand that the sugar industry annually burns crop fields to clear excess foliage before the harvest, causing countless animals to suffer and perish in Florida's sugar cane fields every year. Furthermore, I was outraged to learn that the sugar industry has shown little remorse for the unintended victims of such burns. In fact, in a statement to the Palm Beach Post, spokeswoman Judy Sanchez of the U.S. Sugar Corporation said, "I don't know why anyone would pick up one of those marsh rabbits. They're mangy and vermin-ridden." The sugar industry can and must end the practice of field burning. I am outraged by Judy Sanchez's callous comments about burn victims in the Palm Beach Post. I will boycott the company's products until management retracts the statements made by Ms. Sanchez and agrees to allocate resources to develop humane approaches to removing debris from cane fields. Sincerely, Information Provided By: ActionAlerts@petalist.org (petalist.org) Letter Composed By: Barbara Biel bibiel@yahoo.com *“`³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“`*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`“`*:»«:*³ ¤³ “`³¤³“`³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«: Urge Removal of Nye County Animal Control Employee SEND TO: Mr. Jeff Taguchi, Chair Nye County Board of Commissioners P.O. Box 1328 Beatty, NV 89003 Tel.: 775-553-9237 Fax: 775-482-8198 Ron DeHaven, DVM Deputy Administrator USDA-APHIS 4700 River Rd., Unit 84 Riverdale, MD 20737-1234 Tel.: 301-734-4981 Fax: 301-734-4993 Dear_______________, Too often, Animal Welfare Act violators escape punishment because USDA officials agree to settle charges with meaningless civil penalties. I join the residents of Nye County in asking you to pursue full prosecution and license revocation against Karl Mitchell for chronic, serious violations of the Animal Welfare Act. Mitchell has been charged with repeated violations of the Animal Welfare Act, including failure to provide animals with water, minimum space, and adequate shelter, and for keeping animals in filthy conditions. Mitchell also threatened, abused, and harassed USDA officials. The California Department of Fish and Game has seized animals from Mitchell in the past and has described him as "a dangerous person and a serious liability to any person or animal he's involved with." Clark County, Nevada officials reported that Mitchell had sewn shut a snake's mouth using a needle and thread and no anesthesia to keep the animal's mouth closed during use on a movie set. Mitchell admits that he withholds water from his big cats as a training technique. Mitchell also has a lengthy arrest record that includes burglary, carrying loaded guns in public, assault, felony stalking, grand theft auto, evading arrest, and possession of a wild cat without a permit. As the chief animal control operator, Mitchell runs the shelter and has the authority to enter private property, seize companion animals, issue citations, and make arrests. Clearly, animals are at risk of mistreatment with someone as grossly unsuitable as Mitchell in charge. Please join Nye County residents in calling for Mitchell's immediate removal as head of animal control. THIS MAN IS OBVIOUSLY A SADIST, MORE IN NEED OF PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT THAN A POSITION AS HEAD OF ANIMAL CONTROL. Sincerely, Information Provided By: PETA Letter Composed by PETA: info@peta-online.org *“`³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“`*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`“`*:»«:*³ ¤³ “`³¤³“`³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«: Protest Gassing of Baby Chicks SEND TO: Rich Buickerood, Director The Dallas Zoo 650 South R L Thornton Freeway Dallas, TX 75203 Ph: 214-670-5656 Email: dallszoo@airmail.net Website: www.dallas-zoo.org Fax: 214-720-2242 Email the Mayor and the Members of the Dallas City Council: http://www.dallascityhall.org/forms/mcc/MCC_Mail_Form.htm Email the City of Dallas Park and Recreation Department, which oversees the Zoo: http://www.dallascityhall.org/forms/form_pkr.htm=20 The home address for the Lacertes, the family that funded the remodeling of the Dallas Children's Zoo: Lawrence and Joyce Lacerte 5323 Park Lane Dallas, Texas 75220 Dear_______________, I am writing to protest the Zoo's practice of raising and then killing young chickens in the "CO2" chamber as reported in a Dallas Observer article. Gas chambers are anything but humane. An article in New Scientist, May 19, 1990, reported on the use of gas by Ruth Harrison. Her visit to a mink farm in Denmark, followed by subjecting herself to inhalation of various gas concentrations, made her conclude, "In my opinion, it (gassing) is no better than the old practice of filling up a dustbin with them and letting them suffocate." Compassion in World Farming reports that in chickens, "Gas stunning will not lead to instantaneous insensibility to pain" (Karen Davis, Prisoned Chickens, Poisoned Eggs, p. 121). Children are not educated by seeing and holding the baby chicks before they are killed. The zoo intentionally lies to the children and betrays their trust. Lies and betrayal are not educational. Zoos should want to educate about caring about animals, not treating them as if they were disposable toys. By lying to the children, you are not educating them, you are conditioning them and outright brainwashing them. If you really want to educate children then tell them the truth about what you are doing with the chicks. Children are not as naive or uninformed, as the child that asked the question proved to you. The zoo's claim that, it is "no worse than" parents who don't tell their children the truth about the chickens and other animals they and their children eat, is the same as trying to justify one wrong with another. Two wrongs do not make it right. The zoo is exploiting children and baby chicks to draw crowds and make money. I demand that the zoo end the practice of killing the young chicks immediately. Such barbarism will not be tolerated by civilized society. Sincerely, Information Provided By: United Poultry Concerns - http://www.upc-online.org Letter Composed By: Franklin Wade franklin@upc-online.org (upc-online.org) *“`³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“`*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`“`*:»«:*³ ¤³ “`³¤³“`³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«: Protest Killing of Birds in Vineyards SEND TO: pibbin@pibbin.com.au, reillys@ozemail.com.au, sthallett@sthallett.com.au, admin@knappsteinlenswood.com.au, viv@winesa.asn.au, barossa@dove.net.au, cvacga@penola.mtx.net.au, capejaffawines@picknowl.com.au, billm@kewines.com.au, trevorm@kewines.com.au, gordong@kewines.com.au, paulh@kewines.com.au, gregd@kewines.com.au, pauld@kewines.com.au, nev@kewines.com.au, kewines@kewines.com.au Dear Sir / Madam, I was horrified to learn that South Australian wineries are continually culling birds in vineyards with scant regard to local and international public opinion on this sensitive issue. I am writing to urge you to end this barbaric practice immediately and investigate humane, non-lethal methods of keeping the birds away from the vineyards. I will boycott all South Australian wines and urge my family and friends to do so unless you stop culling the birds immediately. Please note that a large scale boycott will have serious financial repercussions for the South Australian wine industry. I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Information Provided By: Forwarded from VeganWay list Letter composed by: Srikanth K srikanthk@rocketmail.com *“`³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“`*“`³¤³“`*:»«:*“³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«:*“`“`*:»«:*³ ¤³ “`³¤³“`³¤³“`*:»³¤³“`*:»§«: Save Thousands of Dogs in Romania E-Mails need to be sent immediately!!! SEND TO: Traian Basescu, Mayor of Bucharest: primar@pmb.ro Adrian Nastase, Romanian Prime Minister: guv@kappa.ro Please send cc to: Liviu Gaita, e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com Dear_____________, Last January, an article was published in Liberation (Paris), criticizing the lagging economic and social reform in Romania. In that article, Bucharest was called "a town of dogs" and that stirred a series of reactions in Romania. A program was immediately started to kill all dogs in the area. In spite of an on-going program of extensive neutering and vaccination that has just begun to give positive results in Bucharest (decreasing number of reported bites, after several thousands of dogs have been neutered, vaccinated and marked), the authorities have announced nationwide plans to catch and kill all community dogs. Horrible action has already been filmed (and broadcast on TV) in countryside towns as Sulina, Pitesti, Targu Jiu (dogs poisoned, shot with hunting guns, drowned or caught with iron tongs and strangled or beaten to death). I am aware of a meeting, to take place soon, between city officials and the animal protection NGO's. I am urging you to reconsider your plans to annihilate the dogs, and instead, continue to pursue the humane alternative: a progressive spay/neuter/relocate campaign, which has already begun. Gandhi said that a nation can be judged by the way it treats its animals. Please let Romania be acclaimed in the world community for its compassion and reverence for life. Sincerely, Information Provided By: tmchin@yahoo.com (Trevor Chin) Letter Composed By: Liviu Gaita, e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com & SandieGaertner@gateway.net «¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤» Susan Roghair - EnglandGal@aol.com Animal Rights Online, President P O Box 7053 Tampa, Fl 33673-7053 http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1395/ -=Animal RightsOnline=- & Advisory Board Member, Animal Rights Network Inc., not-for-profit publisher of The Animals' Agenda Magazine http://www.animalsagenda.org/ The Animals' Agenda Magazine: WebEdition «¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤» From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 5 16:57:08 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:57:08 +0100 Subject: you are invited Message-ID: <005701c0a595$51303d80$4aa871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Hi! You are invited to visit www.arcticworld.net and give your suggest and comments! The site is not quite finished yet but the mostly important thing that made me to hurry is done! Please those of you which can contribute with some links contact me later at mae@arcticworld.net Best whishes Mae www.djurensratt.org www.greenpeace.se www.oceanfutures.org www.majks.com/achakpage From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 5 20:26:06 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:26:06 +0100 Subject: ASPCA News Alert 3/5/01 Message-ID: <001901c0a5b2$82eb6300$24a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> > Welcome to ASPCA News Alert, a weekly e-mail newsletter from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. > * > HELP CONVINCE USDA TO PROTECT PUPPIES, NOT PUPPY MILLS > We are all too well aware that puppy mills subject millions of helpless > dogs to deplorable conditions and unrelenting suffering. “It’s bad enough > that the thousands of puppy mills that are licensed and inspected by USDA > violate the Animal Welfare Act,” says Nancy Blaney, Director, ASPCA > Federal Government Affairs and Public Policy, “but now the government > wants to allow certain ones to continue to escape regulation altogether by > permanently exempting them from the law.” > > USDA currently requires only wholesale sellers of hunting, breeding, and > security dogs to become licensed and undergo inspection, while exempting > retail dealers, i.e., puppy mills that sell these types of dogs directly > to the public. And on December 4, 2000, the USDA published a Proposed Rule > to make this policy of exempting retail dealers of hunting, breeding and > security dogs into a formal regulation. The Proposed Rule, however, > clearly contradicts the Animal Welfare Act, which exempts only PET STORES > from licensing and regulation. “Puppy mill dealers who sell to the public > are NOT stores, and USDA itself acknowledges that these particular dogs > are NOT sold as pets. So there is no justification for failing to regulate > these dealers,” says Blaney. “All puppy mills—wholesalers and retailers > alike—are supposed to comply with the law. The animals deserve no less.” > > Only by demonstrating widespread opposition to this Proposed Rule can we > hope to stop this bad idea in its tracks. Please mail your comments* by > March 28 to Docket No. 99-087-1, Regulatory Analysis and Development, > PPD/USDA, Suite 3C03, 4700 River Rd., Unit 118, Riverdale, MD 20737-1238. > Let USDA know that you oppose the Proposed Rule published on December 4, > 2000. Explain that allowing retail sellers of hunting, breeding, and > security dogs to escape licensing conflicts with the law—The Animal > Welfare Act exempts ONLY retail pet stores from regulation; puppy mills > are NOT stores, and hunting, breeding, and security dogs are not bought or > sold as pets. All puppy mill animals need and deserve to be protected > under the AWA. > > *Please note, USDA requires an original and three copies of all comments. > > ASPCA TO HOST FERAL CAT SEMINAR > To address the problems associated with free-roaming and feral cats--and > to work toward a decrease in the estimated 4-5 million cats euthanized > annually in the United States--the ASPCA Center for Behavioral Therapy is > hosting an educational seminar on Friday, March 16. The program, which > will be held from 1 to 5 pm at the ASPCA's 92nd street headquarters in New > York City, features an outline of the feral cat problem by Patricia Jones, > ASPCA Vice President, Public Relations, and a panel discussion with feral > cat rescuers and the ASPCA's Lisa Weisberg, Senior Vice President, > Government Affairs and Public Policy. Margaret Slater, DVM, Professor of > Veterinary Public Health at Texas A & M's College of Veterinary Medicine, > will offer her perspectives on understanding and controlling the feral cat > population, while the ASPCA's Dr. Amy Marder, Vice President, Behavioral > Medicine, and a Clinical Assistant Professor at Tufts University School of > Veterinary Medicine, will speak about the behavioral issues surrounding > feral and free-roaming cats. > > The seminar is open to the public, but reservations must be made in > advance. Interested parties can RSVP at (212) 876-7700 x4423 or e-mail > innak@aspca.org; there is a $10 fee. > > LETTERS NEEDED TO PROSECUTE ALABAMA ANIMAL ABUSER UNDER THE GUCCI BILL > Immediately after the the passing of the Gucci bill--which makes abuse of > a dog or cat a felony offense--in the Alabama legislature last September, > William Robinson shot his Lab mix puppy for getting into the trash. > Neighbors then saw the Winston County man throw the dog onto a pile of > burning trash, where he burned to death. Since then, Robinson has been > harassing the neighbor who reported the incident to the authorities, > threatening him and his pregnant wife with a gun. He has also been heard > bragging about killing other dogs. > > The case is scheduled to come before the state attorney general this > month, and letters of support are urgently needed to ensure that Robinson > is prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Please write to Attorney > General William Pryor, State of Alabama, Office of the Attorney General, > 11 S. Union St., Montgomery, AL 36130-0157, and thank him for getting > involved in the case. Tell him why it's so important to prosecute this > horrible act, and don't forget to mention to correlation between human > abuse and animal abuse. You can also send your comments via e-mail at > http://www.ago.state.al.us/contactform.cfm. > > PETFINDER HAPPY TAIL OF THE WEEK: SENIOR CLASS > Just how do you find the perfect pet? California animal lovers Katie > Morton and Matt Earle were living in a house that would not allow dogs, so > they'd already narrowed their search down to a feline. The pair came > across http://www.petfinder.com, the ASPCA's online partner and Internet > database featuring the home pages and pet listings of more than 1,700 > shelters and rescue groups across the country. After perusing pictures of > the available animals at Pet Orphans Fund, Morton and Earle decided to > make this Los Angeles-area shelter their first stop in their search for > the feline of their dreams. > > "We went in with the idea of adopting a young cat," remembers Morton. > "However, once we got there and spent time with them, we decided an older > cat was best for us." And they also decided on not one but two > kitties--Mama Chubs, a two-year-old Russian blue found in a dumpster with > her kittens, and Beau, an eight-year-old Maine Coon mix also known as "the > best snuggler there is." Explains Morton, "He was left on the steps of the > shelter in a cardboard box, but that experience didn't diminish his love > for people at all." > > Do the proud new parents have any advice for potential adopters? > Yup--don't just walk by those distinguished, already-trained seniors. > "Older cats have just as much love to give, but most people overlook them, > thinking they won't live much longer so it's not worth adopting them," > says Morton. "But why not make the last years of an animal's life the best > years?" > > POISON CONTROL ALERT: AVOIDING CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE MOTHBALL KIND > Traditionally used to prevent clothing from being eaten by moth larvae, > mothballs are also scattered in backyards to repel deer, raccoons and > other wild animals. But unfortunately, that hasn't stopped domestic > animals from getting into this toxic household product. According to the > ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center (APCC), the ingestion of just one > mothball can cause serious problems in dogs and cats. Symptoms include > vomiting, lethargy, seizures and blood disorders. Kidney failure and coma > can develop in severe cases. > > "Mothballs are supposed to repel animals, but they don't always," says > APCC's Jill A. Richardson, DVM, who remembers an emergency call from a pet > owner who reported that her cat had bluish gums and seemed very depressed. > "The owners mentioned that they had sprinkled some mothballs around an > opened closet, and their son said he saw the cat lick some of them," says > Richardson. The owners were instructed to bring their pet to the local > animal hospital, and the veterinarian there consulted the APCC for > recommended treatment--which included, in this case, medication, blood > transfusions and oxygen therapy, "as the cat's blood was not carrying > oxygen well," explains Richardson. Treatment continued for several days, > and the cat was later released to her owner. > > To prevent this from happening in your home or backyard, always keep > mothballs in areas that aren't accessible to pets, and keep in mind that > the most dangerous mothballs are the old-fashioned type, which contain > 100-percent naphthalene. "Paradichlorvos is a safer type to use," says > Richardson. And if you suspect that your pet has ingested a mothball--or > any other potentially dangerous substance--call your veterinarian or the > APCC's emergency hotline at 1-888-4-ANI-HELP for round-the-clock telephone > assistance. For more information on poison prevention, visit > http://www.apcc.aspca.org. > > WEBSITE OF THE WEEK > Not all Aussies come from down under! Did you know that the Australian > shepherd--he of the naturally bobbed tail and never-ending stamina--is the > only livestock working breed developed in America? If you are interested > in this smart and loyal canine companion, visit > http://www.neaussierescue.com, the cyberhome of Northern New England > Aussie Rescue. Maintained by ASPCA News Alert reader Kristen Simas, the > site features Aussies in Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire who are > available for adoption, along with success stories, a history of the breed > and info on responsible pet ownership. "Our main goal is to place Aussies > into loving, caring and permanent homes. In the process of helping > Aussies, we try to educate the public about caring for their animals," > says Simas of her group, which is affiliated with the Aussie Rescue and > Placement Helpline, Inc. > > GOOD DEED FOR THE DAY--FORWARD THIS NEWSLETTER TO ONE PERSON! > Know someone who cares about animals as much as you do and wants to make a > difference? Please forward this issue of ASPCA News Alert to them. Anyone > with an e-mail address can subscribe at our website, http://www.aspca.org, > or by sending an e-mail with a blank message to > join-news-alert@list.aspca.org. And please tell teachers, humane educators > and all the children in your life about http://www.animaland.org, the > ASPCA's new website for kids who love animals. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Tue Mar 6 20:40:58 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:40:58 +0100 Subject: Basescu, killer of the dogs References: Message-ID: <003c01c0a67d$c0de70a0$1ea871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> In spite of wide protests, the Mayor of Bucharest pursues his plan to kill most of the 150-200000 dogs in Bucharest. The decision was perceived as an instigation to violence against animals and many individuals and some local authorities are carrying out horrible atrocities all over Romania. Pictures of skinned dogs and dogs eating each other in paddocks are being released on http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ Please visit the site and express your view. Liviu Gaita e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com Phone (mobile): 40-94-487298 Animal Rights issues: Fax: 40-1-3201010 On the street dogs problem: http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights - An international association of veterinarians taking veterinary medicine beyond 'adequate veterinary care'. Committed to balancing the needs of nonhuman animals with those of human animals http://www.avar.org PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. http://www.peta-online.org/ GAP - The Great Ape Project - aims at including the nonhuman great apes within the community of equals by granting them the basic moral and legal protection that only human beings currently enjoy. http://www.greatapeproject.org/ From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Tue Mar 6 23:39:57 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Osje=E8ki_Zeleni?=) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:39:57 +0100 Subject: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs References: <003c01c0a67d$c0de70a0$1ea871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <007101c0a697$4d21b0e0$c8221dc3@dzzpsib> Ovaj podatak je star jedno tri-cetiri godine u medjuvremenu je u Bukurestu osnovana Medjunarodna grupa za zastitu pasa lutalica, koje smo clan, Vier Pfoten Austria provodi kampanju sterilizacije i kastracije pasa koji se varacaju na ulice Bukuresta itd. Slavonsko-baranjsko drustvo za zastitu zivotinja clan WSPA i zdruzeno sa RSPCA ----- Original Message ----- From: Mae To: Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net ; Eko-Diskusije@Zamir. Net Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs > > > In spite of wide protests, the Mayor of Bucharest pursues his plan to kill most of the 150-200000 dogs in Bucharest. The decision was perceived as an instigation to violence against animals and many individuals and some local authorities are carrying out horrible atrocities all over Romania. Pictures of skinned dogs and dogs eating each other in paddocks are being released on http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > Please visit the site and express your view. > > Liviu Gaita > > e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com > Phone (mobile): 40-94-487298 > > Animal Rights issues: > Fax: 40-1-3201010 > > On the street dogs problem: > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights - An international > association of veterinarians taking veterinary medicine > beyond 'adequate veterinary care'. > Committed to balancing the needs of nonhuman animals > with those of human animals > http://www.avar.org > > PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - > operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to > eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. > http://www.peta-online.org/ > > GAP - The Great Ape Project - aims at including the nonhuman > great apes within the community of equals by granting them > the basic moral and legal protection that only human beings > currently enjoy. > http://www.greatapeproject.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Eko-diskusije mailing list > Eko-diskusije@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/eko-diskusije > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 7 23:54:41 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 7 Mar 2001 15:54:41 -0800 Subject: ideja Message-ID: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 06 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > ======================================================================== > > > Po¹aljite Prava-zivotinja zahtjev za mailing listu na > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Ako se ¾elite upisati ili ispisati putem World Wide Weba, posjetite > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > ili putem e-maila po¹aljite poruku sa subjektom ili tekstom poruke > "help" na > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > Osobu koja vodi listu mo¾ete kontaktirati na > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > Kad ¹aljete odgovor (reply) molimo vas dodajte subjekt tako da bude > preciznije od "Re: Sadr¾aji Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > ======================================================================== > > > Send Prava-zivotinja mailing list submissions to > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Basescu, killer of the dogs ( Mae) > 2. Re: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Osje=E8ki_Zeleni?=) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: " Mae" > To: "Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net" , > "Eko-Diskusije@Zamir. Net" > Subject: Basescu, killer of the dogs > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:40:58 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > In spite of wide protests, the Mayor of Bucharest pursues his plan to kill most of the 150-200000 dogs in Bucharest. The decision was perceived as an instigation to violence against animals and many individuals and some local authorities are carrying out horrible atrocities all over Romania. Pictures of skinned dogs and dogs eating each other in paddocks are being released on http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > Please visit the site and express your view. > > Liviu Gaita > > e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com > Phone (mobile): 40-94-487298 > > Animal Rights issues: > Fax: 40-1-3201010 > > On the street dogs problem: > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights - An international > association of veterinarians taking veterinary medicine > beyond 'adequate veterinary care'. > Committed to balancing the needs of nonhuman animals > with those of human animals > http://www.avar.org > > PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - > operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to > eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. > http://www.peta-online.org/ > > GAP - The Great Ape Project - aims at including the nonhuman > great apes within the community of equals by granting them > the basic moral and legal protection that only human beings > currently enjoy. > http://www.greatapeproject.org/ > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Osje=E8ki_Zeleni?= > To: , > "Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net" > Subject: Re: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:39:57 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Ovaj podatak je star jedno tri-cetiri godine u medjuvremenu je u Bukurestu > osnovana Medjunarodna grupa za zastitu pasa lutalica, koje smo clan, Vier > Pfoten Austria provodi kampanju sterilizacije i kastracije pasa koji se > varacaju na ulice Bukuresta itd. > Slavonsko-baranjsko drustvo za zastitu zivotinja > clan WSPA i zdruzeno sa RSPCA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mae > To: Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net ; > Eko-Diskusije@Zamir. Net > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:40 PM > Subject: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs > > > > > > > > In spite of wide protests, the Mayor of Bucharest pursues his plan to kill > most of the 150-200000 dogs in Bucharest. The decision was perceived as an > instigation to violence against animals and many individuals and some local > authorities are carrying out horrible atrocities all over Romania. Pictures > of skinned dogs and dogs eating each other in paddocks are being released on > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > > > Please visit the site and express your view. > > > > Liviu Gaita > > > > e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com > > Phone (mobile): 40-94-487298 > > > > Animal Rights issues: > > Fax: 40-1-3201010 > > > > On the street dogs problem: > > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > > > Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights - An international > > association of veterinarians taking veterinary medicine > > beyond 'adequate veterinary care'. > > Committed to balancing the needs of nonhuman animals > > with those of human animals > > http://www.avar.org > > > > PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - > > operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to > > eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. > > http://www.peta-online.org/ > > > > GAP - The Great Ape Project - aims at including the nonhuman > > great apes within the community of equals by granting them > > the basic moral and legal protection that only human beings > > currently enjoy. > > http://www.greatapeproject.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Eko-diskusije mailing list > > Eko-diskusije@zamir.net > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/eko-diskusije > > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija širenja letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja što ih radi Mcdonalds s ciljem da se ljudima pokaže stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokušaj kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvošenje vega-burgera u restorane ili veę što se smisli ili koncerta na trgu čija bi zarada išla za poboljšanje uvjeta u zagrebačkom zoo-u. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 7 23:54:41 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 7 Mar 2001 15:54:41 -0800 Subject: ideja Message-ID: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 06 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > ======================================================================== > > > Po¹aljite Prava-zivotinja zahtjev za mailing listu na > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Ako se ¾elite upisati ili ispisati putem World Wide Weba, posjetite > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > ili putem e-maila po¹aljite poruku sa subjektom ili tekstom poruke > "help" na > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > Osobu koja vodi listu mo¾ete kontaktirati na > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > Kad ¹aljete odgovor (reply) molimo vas dodajte subjekt tako da bude > preciznije od "Re: Sadr¾aji Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > ======================================================================== > > > Send Prava-zivotinja mailing list submissions to > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Basescu, killer of the dogs ( Mae) > 2. Re: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Osje=E8ki_Zeleni?=) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: " Mae" > To: "Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net" , > "Eko-Diskusije@Zamir. Net" > Subject: Basescu, killer of the dogs > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:40:58 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > In spite of wide protests, the Mayor of Bucharest pursues his plan to kill most of the 150-200000 dogs in Bucharest. The decision was perceived as an instigation to violence against animals and many individuals and some local authorities are carrying out horrible atrocities all over Romania. Pictures of skinned dogs and dogs eating each other in paddocks are being released on http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > Please visit the site and express your view. > > Liviu Gaita > > e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com > Phone (mobile): 40-94-487298 > > Animal Rights issues: > Fax: 40-1-3201010 > > On the street dogs problem: > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights - An international > association of veterinarians taking veterinary medicine > beyond 'adequate veterinary care'. > Committed to balancing the needs of nonhuman animals > with those of human animals > http://www.avar.org > > PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - > operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to > eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. > http://www.peta-online.org/ > > GAP - The Great Ape Project - aims at including the nonhuman > great apes within the community of equals by granting them > the basic moral and legal protection that only human beings > currently enjoy. > http://www.greatapeproject.org/ > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Osje=E8ki_Zeleni?= > To: , > "Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net" > Subject: Re: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:39:57 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Ovaj podatak je star jedno tri-cetiri godine u medjuvremenu je u Bukurestu > osnovana Medjunarodna grupa za zastitu pasa lutalica, koje smo clan, Vier > Pfoten Austria provodi kampanju sterilizacije i kastracije pasa koji se > varacaju na ulice Bukuresta itd. > Slavonsko-baranjsko drustvo za zastitu zivotinja > clan WSPA i zdruzeno sa RSPCA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mae > To: Prava-Zivotinja@Zamir. Net ; > Eko-Diskusije@Zamir. Net > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:40 PM > Subject: EKO-DISKUSIJE: Basescu, killer of the dogs > > > > > > > > In spite of wide protests, the Mayor of Bucharest pursues his plan to kill > most of the 150-200000 dogs in Bucharest. The decision was perceived as an > instigation to violence against animals and many individuals and some local > authorities are carrying out horrible atrocities all over Romania. Pictures > of skinned dogs and dogs eating each other in paddocks are being released on > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > > > Please visit the site and express your view. > > > > Liviu Gaita > > > > e-mail: gaitaliviu@hotmail.com > > Phone (mobile): 40-94-487298 > > > > Animal Rights issues: > > Fax: 40-1-3201010 > > > > On the street dogs problem: > > http://asokha.tripod.com/bioethics/ > > > > Association of Veterinarians for Animal Rights - An international > > association of veterinarians taking veterinary medicine > > beyond 'adequate veterinary care'. > > Committed to balancing the needs of nonhuman animals > > with those of human animals > > http://www.avar.org > > > > PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - > > operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to > > eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment. > > http://www.peta-online.org/ > > > > GAP - The Great Ape Project - aims at including the nonhuman > > great apes within the community of equals by granting them > > the basic moral and legal protection that only human beings > > currently enjoy. > > http://www.greatapeproject.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Eko-diskusije mailing list > > Eko-diskusije@zamir.net > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/eko-diskusije > > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija širenja letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja što ih radi Mcdonalds s ciljem da se ljudima pokaže stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokušaj kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvošenje vega-burgera u restorane ili veę što se smisli ili koncerta na trgu čija bi zarada išla za poboljšanje uvjeta u zagrebačkom zoo-u. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 07:35:25 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:35:25 +0100 Subject: ideja References: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <006c01c0a7a2$58247a20$5ba871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Mladen Koliko je meni poznato u Zagrebu se planiraju akcije na otvorenom (ako nisam nesto pobrkala) i to gotovo svake subote. Za vise informacija o tome mozes se obratiti Taricu na taric@zamir.net pa se mozda zajedno nesto dogovorite. Ne znam tocno sto se planira ali ce tvoja pomoc i prijedlozi sigurno biti dobrodosli. Pozdrav Mae www.djurensratt.org www.greenpeace.se www.oceanfutures.org www.majks.com/achakpage ----- Original Message ----- From: "mladen katani" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:54 AM Subject: ideja > On Tue, 06 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > > > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > > ======================================================================== From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 08:14:18 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:14:18 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi Message-ID: <00c401c0a7a9$a78bea10$f8ddfea9@VIVA> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0" ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslala Sandra iz Rijeke. ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Nicola = Lundy

 

 

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Da li su prirodni produkti za = kosu i ljepotu

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 zaista = onakvi kakvim se čine?

 

 

Članak = iz časopisa Hair style, march 2001

 

Britanci su poznati kao = ljubitelji =9Eivotinja i mnogi od nas će reći da se ne sla=9Eemo s mnogim = oblicima okrutnosti prema =9Eivotinjama, osobito ako su nepotrebni. Kao nacija, = sa lomom CJD-a i zabrinuto=9Aću zbog pesticida, svi smo postali svjesniji = onoga =9Ato stavljamo u svoja tijela. I tako ste mogli razviti zdraviji način = =9Eivota zadnjih nekoliko godina, i mogli ste biti uvjereni da postanete = vegetarijanac, ali da li se to proteglo na va=9Ae prizvode za uljep=9Aavanje? Neznanje = je bla=9Eenstvo neki ka=9Eu, ali samo nekoliko promjena na va=9Aoj listi za = kupovinu i vi mo=9Eete zauvijek isprati svaku krivicu sa svoje = kose.

Charlotte V=F8htz, = utemeljica Green People Company Ltd, registrirana kod Vegan Society=A0 ka=9Ee: =93Stalno je rastući = broj kupaca koji dodaju organske proizvode svojoj tjednoj listi za kupovinu. Ali, 'prirodni' produkti za njegu ko=9Ee trebaju sadr=9Eavati samo 1 % = prirodnih sastojaka da bi bili nazvani prirodnima. Svake godine se preko 100 000 = tona umjetnih kemikalija ubacuje u takozvanu 'prirodnu' kozmetiku i = čovjek mo=9Ee apsorbirati i do 60 % svake supstance koja je nanesena na njegovu = ko=9Eu.=94

 

SKRIVENI SASTOJCI

 

Jedan od velikih problema mo=9Ee biti da iako vi imate dobre namjere, smjernice koje su postavljene od strane kompanija znače da vi kupujete proizvode koji = sadr=9Ee sastojke koje vi ne =9Eelite. 'Većina =9Eena provodi sate svakog = tjedna brinući se za svoju ko=9Eu. Kupujemo proizvode za = či=9Aćenje, tonike, kreme za dan, kreme za noć, gelove za njegu očiju, = losione za tijelo, losione protiv celulita, da navedemo samo neke. Voljni smo = isprobati skoro sve =9Ato nam obećava ljepotu =96 pogotovo ako je to = prirodno,' ka=9Ee Charlotte. 'Danas se skoro svaki proizvod za njegu ko=9Ee na tr=9Ei=9Atu = opisuje kao prirodan i čist. To je dana=9Anja marketin=9Aka riječ koja = zvrnda i ona prodaje. Primjenjena na proizvode za njegu ko=9Ee, to je također i = najvi=9Ae zloupotrebljavana riječ u engleskom jeziku. U 'prirodnim' = proizvodima je tisuće kemikalija, mo=9Ee ih biti i do 20 u bilo kojem proizvodu. = To mo=9Ee biti obman (prevara), ali nije ilegalno. Većina kemikalija koje = nalazimo u na=9Aoj kozmetici se malo ili uopće ne razlikuje od o=9Atrih, = otrovnih kemikalija koje se koriste u industriji. Neki sastojci kori=9Ateni u = kozmetičkoj industriji su stvarno opasni za zdravlje, ali to nam naravno nije = rečeno. Bilo kako bilo, nema razloga da ostanemo neinformirani. Tko uopće = =9Eeli oči koje peku, crvenu ko=9Eu, ili alergični dermatitis, a da i = ne spominjemo povećan rizik od raka?

 

 

NEVOLJE I ZABLUDE

 

Ako = patite od alergija mo=9Eda ste već bili prisiljeni tra=9Eiti prirodne = proizvode zbog toga =9Ato su dva vodeća razloga alergija i iritacija u kozmetici = mirisi i sredstva za konzerviranje. 'Ako patite od suzenja očiju, crvenila = ko=9Ee ili iritacije, krivac mo=9Ee biti miris dodan u kozmetiku,' upozorava = Charlotte. Drugi, obično navedeni simptomi uključuju mučninu, = promjene raspolo=9Eenja, depresiju, letargiju, nemir, iritabilnost, propadanje = pamćenja i nesposobnost koncentracije =96 i sve to od pranja kose!

Ako = ovo nije dovoljno da se upoznate sa svojom lokalnom vegan kozmetičkom prodavaonicom, mo=9Eda će činjenica da mnoge =9Eivotinje = okrutno pate svake godine u ime snage ljepote, učiniti da ne zanemarujete =9Ato = ide u va=9Ae =9Aampone i balzame. Na primjer, keratin koji dolazi iz vune ili = perja je upotrebljen u balzamima kao i kolagen iz =9Eivotinjskih vezivnih = tkiva.

 

 

KOSA BEZ OKRUTNOSTI

 

Bez = da zvučimo kao sve voleći hipi na improviziranoj uličnoj = govornici, kako njegovati svoju kosu bez da ozlijedite bilo koju =9Eivotinju. Pa, = postoji vi=9Ae pravaca. Najva=9Enije je naći kompaniju s reputacijom koje = su popisali British Union for Abolition of Vivisection (BUAV) i Vegan Society. =

Jedna takva kompanija je Meadowsweet, u Suffolku. Njen glasnogovornik ka=9Ee: = =93Pred vi=9Ae od 15 godina osjetili smo da postoji pozitivna potreba za visoko = kvalitetnim nizom proizvoda za njegu kose, tijela i ko=9Ee koji upotrebljavaju prirodan = organski tip sastojaka, umjesto onih dobijenih od =9Eivotinja. Također smo = osjetili da ti produkti moraju biti novčano dostupni svima i, najva=9Enije, = ne smiju biti testirani na =9Eivotinjama.=94

Meadowsweet je organiziran tako da razvije i prizvodi proizvode upotrebljavajući = prirodna ulja, ekstrakte biljaka i esencijalna ulja, od kojih su mnogi bili upotrebljavani stoljećima i zato neće trebati nikakvo okrutno testiranje na =9Eivotinjama. Da osiguraju kvalitetu, djelotvornost i = sigurnost zavr=9Anog proizvoda, koriste ljude koji volonterski isprobavaju nastali = proizvod i od kojih mogu dobiti detaljne komentare. =93Po na=9Aem mi=9Aljenju, = testovi izvedeni na =9Eivotinjama, osim =9Ato su nepotrebno okrutni, nemaju = vrijednosti jer se =9Eivotinje znatno razlikuju od ljudi i zato različito = reagiraju=94.

 

 

VRHUNSKA KVALITETA

 

Ne = dajte se zavarati mi=9Aljenjem da će zbog toga =9Ato raste va=9Aa savjest, proizvodi = koje ćete upotrebljavati gubiti na kvaliteti. Postoji mnogo dobro = poznatih vrsta proizvoda na tr=9Ei=9Atu uključujući Crabtree & = Evelyn i Aveda. Provjerite na internet stranici Dru=9Atva vegana (Vegan Society = website)=A0 opse=9Eni popis kompanija koje = rade s produktima koje nisu neprijateljske prema =9Eivotinjama (animal friendly products). Čak ne morate prestati ugađati samima = sebi.

Saloni i proizvodi (za njegu kose) Daniela Fielda po=9Atuju veganske principe = (vegan friendly) =93Ovo je kompanija za ljubitelje =9Eivotinja=94, ka=9Ee = Daniel Field, =93u mojim proizvodima čak nema ni meda. Osjećam da vodim vrlo = korektan i po=9Aten posao, s vrlo velikom poslovnom satisfakcijom. Sva na=9Aa = bojila nisu=A0 =9Atetna jer ne sadr=9Ee nikakve = kemikalije i po=9Ato imamo svoj laboratorij koji se zove Organsko mineralni = istra=9Eivački institut (Organics Mineral Research Institute) mo=9Eemo garantirati da = su svi na=9Ai sastojci ovjereni kao ne testirani na =9Eivotinjama. Ljudi =9Eele = moje proizvode jer ne smrde na kemikalije a to je tako zato =9Ato ni ne = sadr=9Ee bilo kakve, i zato je kosa savr=9Aeno sigurna.=94

 

 

SASTOJCI DOBIJENI OD =8EIVOTINJA, =

A OBIČNO KORI=8ATENI U = KOZMETIČKIM PROIZVODIMA

 

LOJ I SVINJSKA MAST = (=9Eivotinjske masti) =96 mogu se naći u sapunima i u kremama

KOLAGEN =96 iz =9Eivotinjskih = vezivnih tkiva; koristi se u vla=9Enim kremama i balzamima za kosu

HITIN =96 iz morskih rakova i = rakovih lju=9Atura; koristi se kao zgu=9Anjivač u =9Aamponima, balzamima i = za njegu ko=9Ee

ELASTIN =96 je =9Eivotinjski = protein ; koristi se u vla=9Enim kremama

MASNE KISELINE (ponekada iz = =9Eivotinjske masti) =96 mogu se naći u dezodoransima, podlozi krema, ru=9Eevima = za usne i pjenu=9Aavim kupkama

GLICERIN=A0 (bazirana =9Eivotinjska ili biljna mast) =96 upotrebljava se kao = sredstvo za ubla=9Eavanje (omek=9Aavanje ko=9Ee)

KERATIN =96 često dobiven iz = vune ili perja; upotrebljava se u balzamima za kosu i nokte

LANOLIN =96 upotrebljava se u = ru=9Eevima za usne i losionima

MO=8AUS, CIBET I KASTOREUM =96 = hormoni dobiveni iz analnih i seksualnih =9Elijezda =9Eivih =9Eivotinja (posebno = uzgajanih jelena, cibetnih mačaka u kavezu i zatočenih dabrova); koriste ih visokotr=9Ei=9Ani proizvođači parfema koji =9Eele da se njihov = miris (trag) dugo zadr=9Ei na ko=9Ei

SVILA =96 upotrebljava se u = sjenilima za oči, vla=9Enim kremama i pjenama za oblikovanje

SQUALINE =96 mo=9Ee biti dobivena iz ulja jetre morskog psa; koristi = se u rumenilima, kremama i losionima za sunčanje

STEARINSKA KISELINA (često = iz =9Eivotinjskih izvora) =96 mo=9Ee se naći u mnogim pre=9Aanim = puderima, kremama, ru=9Eevima za usne i losionima.

 

 

 

 

INFO

 

Animal Free Shopper published by = the Vegan Society =96 www.vegsoc.org i www.vegansociety.com =

 

Meadowsweet =96 www.meadowsweet.co.uk i Email = sales@meadowsweet.co.uk. =

 

Green People Company =96 www.greenpeople.co.uk =

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 08:19:18 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:18 +0100 Subject: ideja References: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <00c501c0a7a9$ac6f70b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokusaj kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvošenje vega-burgera u restorane ili veę sto se smisli ili koncerta na trgu čija bi zarada isla za poboljsanje uvjeta u zagrebačkom zoo-u. Bok Mladene, Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam dosta sumnjicav. Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije razmisljao. Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili mnogo ljudi. Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. Pozdrav, Hrvoje From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 10:08:07 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:07 +0100 Subject: ured Message-ID: <001601c0a7b9$d14ac320$1482bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos samo pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili = nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva prava zadrzana su kod Stephana = (naseg dekoratera). Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak Masha kojem pripada i Zeleni Mash i = preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na neki drugi sastanak tek = toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je bilo uzasno... ali = mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o cemu pricaju. Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu grupu, nisu mi se cinili previse = zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju da smo tamo, tko smo = i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo potrebno. Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne trebaju, a smatra da bi u uredu = dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da to donese. Pozdrav, Domagoj aka XTX ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = LJUDI BI BILI=20 VEGETARIJANCI
 
Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos = samo=20 pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva = prava=20 zadrzana su kod Stephana (naseg dekoratera).
 
Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak = Masha kojem=20 pripada i Zeleni Mash i preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na = neki drugi=20 sastanak tek toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je = bilo=20 uzasno... ali mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o = cemu=20 pricaju.
 
Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu = grupu, nisu=20 mi se cinili previse zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju = da smo=20 tamo, tko smo i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo = potrebno.
 
Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne = trebaju, a=20 smatra da bi u uredu dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da = to=20 donese.
 
Pozdrav,
Domagoj aka = XTX
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 10:22:21 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:22:21 +0100 Subject: SASTANAK Message-ID: <001701c0a7b9$db5764e0$1482bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Na zadnjem sastanku u nedjelju dogovorili smo da bi mogli imati stalni = termin sastanaka posto sad imamo svoj ured za koji ne trebamo dozvole. = Mislimo da je najbolje subotom predvecer ili poslijepodne, znaci ili oko = 17:00 ili cak 16:00h. Pa sad je vrijeme da se odlucimo. Termin moze biti = prebacen koji sat poslije, znaci najkasnije do 18:00h. (jer ima nas koji = zelimo ici u disko, a varate se ako mislite da cu zakasniti u disko zbog = nekakvog trulog sastanka) Taj termin poznat je kao 'sastanak subotnje veceri' i ako nekome = slucajno ne odgovara slobodno neka se javi i predlozi neki drugi termin = pa cemo ga staviti na razmatranje. Takoder imamo lagane probleme sa stolicama, a to je da ih uopce nemamo. = Te ako netko ima kakvu dobro stolicu na rasklapanje ili neku stolicu = koju moze posuditi na neko vrijeme neka je ponese :))) Struje imamo - = svijece ne morate nositi :))) Dobro, to je to i sada moramo odrediti kada cemo se naci. Takoder molim = standardnu ekipu sa sastanaka da najavi dolazak ili javi u slucaju da = nece doci tek toliko da znamo sto se dogada. Dakle, javite se na ovu = listu, moj mail taric@zamir.net ili 091 5397 222. Jos samo za kraj... (ali to vec ionako znate) - Obveznik koji se ne = odazove na ovaj poziv i ne opravda izostanak, bit ce prisilno doveden, a = podlijeze i drugoj propisanoj odgovornosti. Veganska inkvizicija, Domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = LJUDI BI BILI=20 VEGETARIJANCI
 
Na zadnjem sastanku u nedjelju = dogovorili smo da bi=20 mogli imati stalni termin sastanaka posto sad imamo svoj ured za koji ne = trebamo=20 dozvole. Mislimo da je najbolje subotom predvecer ili poslijepodne, = znaci ili=20 oko 17:00 ili cak 16:00h. Pa sad je vrijeme da se odlucimo. Termin = moze=20 biti prebacen koji sat poslije, znaci najkasnije do 18:00h. (jer = ima nas=20 koji zelimo ici u disko, a varate se ako mislite da cu zakasniti u disko = zbog=20 nekakvog trulog sastanka)
 
Taj termin poznat je kao 'sastanak = subotnje veceri'=20 i ako nekome slucajno ne odgovara slobodno neka se javi i predlozi neki = drugi=20 termin pa cemo ga staviti na razmatranje.
 
Takoder imamo lagane probleme sa = stolicama, a to je=20 da ih uopce nemamo. Te ako netko ima kakvu dobro stolicu na rasklapanje = ili neku=20 stolicu koju moze posuditi na neko vrijeme neka je ponese :))) Struje = imamo -=20 svijece ne morate nositi :)))
 
Dobro, to je to i sada moramo odrediti = kada cemo se=20 naci. Takoder molim standardnu ekipu sa sastanaka da najavi dolazak ili = javi u=20 slucaju da nece doci tek toliko da znamo sto se dogada. Dakle, javite se = na ovu=20 listu, moj mail taric@zamir.net = ili 091=20 5397 222.
 
Jos samo za kraj... (ali to vec ionako = znate)=20 - Obveznik koji se ne odazove na ovaj poziv i ne opravda izostanak, = bit ce=20 prisilno doveden, a podlijeze i drugoj propisanoj = odgovornosti.
 
Veganska inkvizicija,
Domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 10:54:18 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Tamara Frkac) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:54:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fwd: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, Message-ID: <20010308105418.45975.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> --- frontline@rocketmail.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:46:19 -0600 > From: frontline@rocketmail.com > To: frontline-news@waste.org > Subject: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for > Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, > > USA) > Sender: owner-frontline-news@waste.org > Precedence: bulk > > Frontline Information Service - News 3/07/01 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - > > > EARTH LIBERATION FRONT CLAIMS > RESPONSIBILITY FOR SMASHING WINDOWS & SIGN > AT OLD NAVY OUTLET STORE ON LONG ISLAND, NY > ___________________________________________ > > URGENT NEWS ADVISORY > March 7, 2001 > > > HUNTINGTON, LONG ISLAND, NY - The Earth Liberation > Front (E.L.F.) has > officially claimed responsibility for smashing over > eight 10x10 insulated plate > glass windows and one neon sign at the Old Navy > Outlet Center in downtown > Huntington, Long Island on March 5, 2001. > > A communique sent by the E.L.F. stated, "This action > served as a protest to Old > Navy's owners, the Fisher family's involvement in > the clearcutting of old > growth forest in the Northwest. These actions will > continue until the Fisher > family pulls economic support from the lumber > industry, regardless of whether > with the Pacific Lumber Company or otherwise." > > The Fisher family, which owns the Gap, Banana > Republic, and Old Navy, recently > purchased 235,000 acres of Mendicino County redwood > forest in northern > California. The Fisher's logging company, Mendicino > Redwood Company, plans to > clearcut large sections of land within this > purchase. The company is also > spraying Garlon, an herbicide related to Agent > Orange, to eliminate ground > vegetation. Garlon induces vomiting and weakness in > humans and is known to > severely disorient juvenile Coho salmon. > > The E.L.F. is an international underground > organization that uses direct action > in the form of economic sabotage to stop the > exploitation and destruction of > the natural environment. > > The communique continued, "Old Navy, Gap, Banana > Republic care not for the > species that call these forests home, care not for > the animals that comprise > their leather products, and care not for their > garment workers underpaid, > exploited and enslaved in overseas sweatshops." > > Since 1997, in the United States alone, the E.L.F. > has caused near $40 million > in damages to entities profiting off the destruction > of the natural > environment. > > The communique finished by stating, "As more and > more minds continue to be > exposed to the true nature of their greed, fewer and > fewer will sit idly by, > and the cries of the earth will not fall upon deaf > ears. We will not stop. > Love, The Elves." > > Contact: North American Earth Liberation Front Press > Office > 503.478.0902 http://www.earthliberationfront.com > > > *A copy of the communique sent by the E.L.F. follows > on page 2. > > > > COMMUNIQUE SENT BY THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT > > "During the evening of March 5th, members of the > earth liberation front > descended upon The Old Navy Outlet Center in > downtown Huntington, Long Island, > NY. We smashed over 8 10'x10' insulated plate glass > windows and one neon sign. > This action served as a protest to Old Navy's > owners, the Fisher family's > involvement in the clearcutting of old growth forest > in the Pacific Northwest. > These actions will continue until the Fisher family > pulls economic support from > the lumber industry, regardless of whether with the > Pacific Lumber Company or > otherwise. > > In the past week, mother nature has blessed the > Northeast with snow, and we are > reminded of our brothers and sisters in the > Northwest, and their struggle to > preserve what mother nature has blessed them with, > the forests in the land that > they call home. 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Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 10:55:02 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:55:02 +0100 Subject: ideja References: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> <00c501c0a7a9$ac6f70b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Message-ID: <003901c0a7bf$87ac9300$1482bfd5@xx> DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda Ovo smo radili prije pet godina kada se McD tek otvorio. Na sam dan otvorenja (tada je to organizirao Zagrebacki anarhisticki pokret) smo dijelili letke ispred restorana u Jurisicevoj. Kasnije znam da se to ponavljalo dosta puta i bilo je raznih reakcija, a bilo je i mnogo ilegalnih direktnih akcija o kojima neznam bas mnogo. Mislim da je to moguce ponoviti, a bilo bi lijepo da pocnemo s javnim prikazivanjem filma Mclibel u kojem se radi o dvoje aktivista londonskog Greenpeaca koje je McD tuzio za klevetu, a koji su na kraju 'pobijedili' iako su bili optuzeni. Dijeljenje letaka je ionako mnogo jednostavnije, ali i manje bitno. >> ili pokusaj kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvošenje vega-burgera u restorane ili > veę sto se smisli Mislim da nesto slicno radi PeTA, ali nisam siguran treba li takvo sto zapocinjati. Jer nije rijec samo o ubijanju zivotinja, McD spaljuje i rusi tropske sume, izrabljuje radnike i manipulira djecom (izmedu ostalog), a losa kvaliteta hrane i bolesti uzrokovane jedenjem iste su im zastitni znak. Mislim da osobno ne bih bio sretan da netko pojede 'vege big mac' i oboli od raka, a mi smo zadovoljni jer i McD ima vege hranu. Osobno bih vise volio da propadnu, a manje da suradjujemo, ali ako bi uvodenje vegetarijanske hrane u McD bio dobar potez za nas onda sam ZA. Dakle, ako se nade dovoljno razloga da takvo sto zatrazimo, mislim da to ne bi trebao biti neki veliki problem. Potrebno je nekoliko sastanaka s njima i treba osmisliti neko pismo s prijedlogom. > Bok Mladene, > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. Mi smo tamo od otprilike 11:00 do kad nam se da, odnosno, ako nas ne potjeraju vjetar, kisa (a prije dva tjedna) i snijeg, onda smo tamo do najkasnije 16:00h. Stand je zadnja dva tjedna bio uz ogradu pravoslavne crkve, ali sad cemo se malo maknuti, jer neki ljudi iz crkve nam ne daju da stavljamo transparente po ogradi pa cemo ih razapeti izmedu drveca. Uglavnom, ako netko zeli doci mi smo tamo jos dva tjedna, a onda idemo na neku drugu lokaciju... > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. Mi imamo dva letka od Zapa (Zg anarhistickog pokreta), 'Sto ne valja s McDonald'som?' i neki manji o povezanosti raka i jedenja u Mcdu. Ali skoro da smo ih sve podijelili, jer ih ni nije bilo puno. > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. O tome treba dobro promisliti, jer kad su zadnji put organizirali akciju 'Tri dana solidarnosti za Prag' netko je dosao na ideju otici u sam restoran u Jurisicevoj i radili su neke nerede, bacali hranu ljudima koji su unutra jeli i divljali su i vikali po restoranu sto se nije dopalo organizatorima. Kad se radi u suradnji s njima treba znati da je vrlo lako moguce da nam navuku ozbiljne probleme s policijom ili nesto slicno. Nisam ljubitelj izravnog sukoba i ako ga je moguce izbjeci - izbjeci cu ga. > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > dosta sumnjicav. Odgovorit ce sigurno, mozda cak i pozitivno. Vjerujem cak prije pozitivno, nego negativno, ali nisam siguran da li je pametan potez suradivati s njima kad i mi i svi ostali cijelo vrijeme pricamo protiv njih i radimo protiv njih i voljeli bi da ih upropastimo. > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije razmisljao. Ja sam takoder razmisljao o necem takvom, ali morate znati da je rijec o jako puno posla. Mi smo se prije i financirali od organizacije mnogo manjih koncerata, ali isto tako bilo je puno posla i oko toga. Koncert moze isto tako biti i veliki gubitak - mi smo zbog niza gubitaka od koncerata i pali u dugove, tako da ne mora obavezno poluciti uspjeh. > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > mnogo ljudi. Mogu vam reci da smo samo stajanjem na Cvjetnom trgu pridobili nekoliko ljudi, a vjerujem da bi koncert bi pun pogodak, ali ponavljam da je potrebno jako puno raditi. > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. Ima nekoliko i grupa i pjevaca koji bi se za npr. ZOO sigurno odazvali, ali ne moramo gledati samo na Hrvatsku. Zasto ne pozvati Paul McCartneya ili nekog slicnog. To bi sigurno uspjelo, a on je PeTAin clan i mozda bi ga na tu foru uspjeli dovuci ovamo... Mozemo raditi nesto za utociste za farske zivotinje... Pozdrav, Domagoj From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 11:03:16 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:03:16 +0100 Subject: utociste za farmske zivotinje Message-ID: <003e01c0a7bf$a48bee80$1482bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI =20 U Zagrebu i Osijeku su nedavno otvoreni azili za napustene pse i macke. = U Zagrebu cak postoji pored postojeceg azila i mnogo mjesta za izgradnju = drugih azila. Nitko jos nije rekao da to smiju ili ne smiju biti azila = za farmske zivotinje, ali zasto ne pokusati.=20 Ono sto predlazem je da napravimo projekt 'Utociste za farmske = zivotinje' gdje bi s raznih farmi skupljali bolesne, stare i umorne = zivotinje i smjestali ih u azil gdje bi u miru zivjeli do prirodne = smrti.=20 Grad je takoder obecao i neka sredstva za izgradnju azila, ako je = naravno takvo sto moguce na tom prostoru, ali koliko sam shvatio, ima = jos jako puno mjesta pored azila za pse i macke. Osim toga postoje neke mogucnosti kako napraviti jeftino utociste od = starih napustenih staja koje bi preselili na to podrucje ili = sponzorstvom raznih gradevinskih firmi. Osim toga s jednom gospodicom iz = udruge Druga prilika sam razgovarao o nekim mogucnostima prikupljanja = novca za takvo sto. Ima stvarno super ideja koje su cak i lako izvedive. = Naravno, mozemo racunati i na poprilicne donacije od raznih svjetskih = drustava za zastitu zivotinja, ali i grupa za prava zivotinja. Kad bi pokrenuli veliku kampanju za takvo sto, vjerujem da bi i mnogi = glazbenici rado nastupili na koncertima za taj projekt. Osim toga bilo = bi dobro da mi date par minuta da na sastanku kazem par stvari o tom = utocistu, jer vjerujem da ce vam se dopasti. Pozdrav, Domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = LJUDI BI BILI=20 VEGETARIJANCI
 
U Zagrebu i Osijeku su nedavno otvoreni = azili za=20 napustene pse i macke. U Zagrebu cak postoji pored postojeceg = azila i mnogo=20 mjesta za izgradnju drugih azila. Nitko jos nije rekao da to smiju ili = ne smiju=20 biti azila za farmske zivotinje, ali zasto ne pokusati.
 
Ono sto predlazem je da napravimo = projekt 'Utociste=20 za farmske zivotinje' gdje bi s raznih farmi skupljali bolesne, stare i = umorne=20 zivotinje i smjestali ih u azil gdje bi u miru zivjeli do prirodne = smrti.=20
 
Grad je takoder obecao i neka sredstva = za izgradnju=20 azila, ako je naravno takvo sto moguce na tom prostoru, ali koliko sam = shvatio,=20 ima jos jako puno mjesta pored azila za pse i macke.
 
Osim toga postoje neke mogucnosti kako = napraviti=20 jeftino utociste od starih napustenih staja koje bi preselili na to = podrucje ili=20 sponzorstvom raznih gradevinskih firmi. Osim toga s jednom gospodicom iz = udruge=20 Druga prilika sam razgovarao o nekim mogucnostima prikupljanja novca za = takvo=20 sto. Ima stvarno super ideja koje su cak i lako izvedive. Naravno, = mozemo=20 racunati i na poprilicne donacije od raznih svjetskih drustava za = zastitu=20 zivotinja, ali i grupa za prava zivotinja.
 
Kad bi pokrenuli veliku kampanju za = takvo sto,=20 vjerujem da bi i mnogi glazbenici rado nastupili na koncertima za taj = projekt.=20 Osim toga bilo bi dobro da mi date par minuta da na sastanku kazem par = stvari o=20 tom utocistu, jer vjerujem da ce vam se dopasti.
 
Pozdrav,
Domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 13:31:04 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Stela Suboticanec) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:31:04 +0000 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <00c401c0a7a9$a78bea10$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Message-ID: <3AA78994.EAA979EF@pliva.hr> Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski proizvodaci. Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? Ideje su super! Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota Stela Hrvoje Nezic wrote: > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslalaSandra iz Rijeke. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 14:57:14 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:57:14 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <00c401c0a7a9$a78bea10$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <3AA78994.EAA979EF@pliva.hr> Message-ID: <000d01c0a7e0$63d6ac60$3c82bfd5@xx> DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski > proizvodaci. > Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski > proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? Ima prodavaonica Lush u Petrinjskoj 4 ili 6, sto je jako blizu Trgu bana Jelacica. Tamo su pretezno veganski proizvodi, ali ima i nekih s mlijekom i medom. Niti jedan proizvod nije testiran na zivotinjama, a ne koriste ni suvisna pakiranja. Inace, njihova ponuda je nesto najbolje sto sam ikada u zivotu vidio, tko jednom ode tamo sigurno ce se vratiti. Preporucam! (jedino su jako skupi) Osim Lush postoji i DM (Drogerie Markt?) koji prodaju neke proizvode koji nisu testirani i koji su veganski. Nedavno sam dobio litru tekuceg sapuna od firme Genera i proizvod je veganski, netestiran, a odlican. > Ideje su super! > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. Meni se isto cini da bi u krajnjem slucaju bilo jako upitno jesu li ti 'vege' proizvodi stvarno veganski ili vegetarijanski, jer ipak je rijec o zlocincima i prevarantima. > Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! > Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota > Stela Pozdrav Stela i nadam se da se vidimo i na sastanku u subotu oko 17:00 u Gundulicevoj 21a u podrumskim prostorijama. Domagoj From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 16:13:23 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 08:13:23 -0800 Subject: pocetak akcije Message-ID: <20010308161323.14499.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. 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lang=3DHR>Jedan od velikih > problema mo=9Ee biti da iako vi imate dobre namjere, smjernice koje su > postavljene od strane kompanija znače da vi kupujete proizvode koji = > sadr=9Ee > sastojke koje vi ne =9Eelite. 'Većina =9Eena provodi sate svakog = > tjedna > brinući se za svoju ko=9Eu. Kupujemo proizvode za = > či=9Aćenje, > tonike, kreme za dan, kreme za noć, gelove za njegu očiju, = > losione za > tijelo, losione protiv celulita, da navedemo samo neke. Voljni smo = > isprobati > skoro sve =9Ato nam obećava ljepotu =96 pogotovo ako je to = > prirodno,' ka=9Ee > Charlotte. 'Danas se skoro svaki proizvod za njegu ko=9Ee na tr=9Ei=9Atu = > opisuje kao > prirodan i čist. To je dana=9Anja marketin=9Aka riječ koja = > zvrnda i ona > prodaje. Primjenjena na proizvode za njegu ko=9Ee, to je također i = > najvi=9Ae > zloupotrebljavana riječ u engleskom jeziku. U 'prirodnim' = > proizvodima je > tisuće kemikalija, mo=9Ee ih biti i do 20 u bilo kojem proizvodu. = > To mo=9Ee > biti obman (prevara), ali nije ilegalno. Većina kemikalija koje = > nalazimo u > na=9Aoj kozmetici se malo ili uopće ne razlikuje od o=9Atrih, = > otrovnih kemikalija > koje se koriste u industriji. Neki sastojci kori=9Ateni u = > kozmetičkoj > industriji su stvarno opasni za zdravlje, ali to nam naravno nije = > rečeno. > Bilo kako bilo, nema razloga da ostanemo neinformirani. Tko uopće = > =9Eeli > oči koje peku, crvenu ko=9Eu, ili alergični dermatitis, a da i = > ne > spominjemo povećan rizik od raka?

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Ako = > patite od > alergija mo=9Eda ste već bili prisiljeni tra=9Eiti prirodne = > proizvode zbog > toga =9Ato su dva vodeća razloga alergija i iritacija u kozmetici = > mirisi i > sredstva za konzerviranje. 'Ako patite od suzenja očiju, crvenila = > ko=9Ee ili > iritacije, krivac mo=9Ee biti miris dodan u kozmetiku,' upozorava = > Charlotte. > Drugi, obično navedeni simptomi uključuju mučninu, = > promjene > raspolo=9Eenja, depresiju, letargiju, nemir, iritabilnost, propadanje = > pamćenja > i nesposobnost koncentracije =96 i sve to od pranja kose!

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Ako = > ovo nije > dovoljno da se upoznate sa svojom lokalnom vegan kozmetičkom > prodavaonicom, mo=9Eda će činjenica da mnoge =9Eivotinje = > okrutno pate > svake godine u ime snage ljepote, učiniti da ne zanemarujete =9Ato = > ide u > va=9Ae =9Aampone i balzame. Na primjer, keratin koji dolazi iz vune ili = > perja je > upotrebljen u balzamima kao i kolagen iz =9Eivotinjskih vezivnih = > tkiva.

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Bez = > da > zvučimo kao sve voleći hipi na improviziranoj uličnoj = > govornici, > kako njegovati svoju kosu bez da ozlijedite bilo koju =9Eivotinju. Pa, = > postoji > vi=9Ae pravaca. Najva=9Enije je naći kompaniju s reputacijom koje = > su popisali > British Union for Abolition of Vivisection (BUAV) i Vegan Society. = >

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lang=3DHR>Jedna takva > kompanija je Meadowsweet, u Suffolku. Njen glasnogovornik ka=9Ee: = > =93Pred vi=9Ae od > 15 godina osjetili smo da postoji pozitivna potreba za visoko = > kvalitetnim nizom > proizvoda za njegu kose, tijela i ko=9Ee koji upotrebljavaju prirodan = > organski > tip sastojaka, umjesto onih dobijenih od =9Eivotinja. Također smo = > osjetili > da ti produkti moraju biti novčano dostupni svima i, najva=9Enije, = > ne smiju > biti testirani na =9Eivotinjama.=94

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Ne = > dajte se zavarati > mi=9Aljenjem da će zbog toga =9Ato raste va=9Aa savjest, proizvodi = > koje > ćete upotrebljavati gubiti na kvaliteti. Postoji mnogo dobro = > poznatih > vrsta proizvoda na tr=9Ei=9Atu uključujući Crabtree & = > Evelyn i Aveda. > Provjerite na internet stranici Dru=9Atva vegana (Vegan Society = > website) style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 opse=9Eni popis kompanija koje = > rade s > produktima koje nisu neprijateljske prema =9Eivotinjama (animal friendly > products). Čak ne morate prestati ugađati samima = > sebi.

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lang=3DHR>Saloni i > proizvodi (za njegu kose) Daniela Fielda po=9Atuju veganske principe = > (vegan > friendly) =93Ovo je kompanija za ljubitelje =9Eivotinja=94, ka=9Ee = > Daniel Field, =93u > mojim proizvodima čak nema ni meda. Osjećam da vodim vrlo = > korektan i > po=9Aten posao, s vrlo velikom poslovnom satisfakcijom. Sva na=9Aa = > bojila nisu style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =9Atetna jer ne sadr=9Ee nikakve = > kemikalije i > po=9Ato imamo svoj laboratorij koji se zove Organsko mineralni = > istra=9Eivački > institut (Organics Mineral Research Institute) mo=9Eemo garantirati da = > su svi > na=9Ai sastojci ovjereni kao ne testirani na =9Eivotinjama. Ljudi =9Eele = > moje > proizvode jer ne smrde na kemikalije a to je tako zato =9Ato ni ne = > sadr=9Ee bilo > kakve, i zato je kosa savr=9Aeno sigurna.=94

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SASTOJCI DOBIJENI OD =8EIVOTINJA, = >

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A OBIČNO KORI=8ATENI U = > KOZMETIČKIM > PROIZVODIMA

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LOJ I SVINJSKA MAST = > (=9Eivotinjske masti) =96 > mogu se naći u sapunima i u kremama

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KOLAGEN =96 iz =9Eivotinjskih = > vezivnih tkiva; > koristi se u vla=9Enim kremama i balzamima za kosu

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HITIN =96 iz morskih rakova i = > rakovih > lju=9Atura; koristi se kao zgu=9Anjivač u =9Aamponima, balzamima i = > za njegu ko=9Ee

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ELASTIN =96 je =9Eivotinjski = > protein ; koristi > se u vla=9Enim kremama

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MASNE KISELINE (ponekada iz = > =9Eivotinjske > masti) =96 mogu se naći u dezodoransima, podlozi krema, ru=9Eevima = > za usne i > pjenu=9Aavim kupkama

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GLICERIN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 > (bazirana =9Eivotinjska ili biljna mast) =96 upotrebljava se kao = > sredstvo za > ubla=9Eavanje (omek=9Aavanje ko=9Ee)

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KERATIN =96 često dobiven iz = > vune ili > perja; upotrebljava se u balzamima za kosu i nokte

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LANOLIN =96 upotrebljava se u = > ru=9Eevima za usne > i losionima

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MO=8AUS, CIBET I KASTOREUM =96 = > hormoni dobiveni > iz analnih i seksualnih =9Elijezda =9Eivih =9Eivotinja (posebno = > uzgajanih jelena, > cibetnih mačaka u kavezu i zatočenih dabrova); koriste ih > visokotr=9Ei=9Ani proizvođači parfema koji =9Eele da se njihov = > miris (trag) > dugo zadr=9Ei na ko=9Ei

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SVILA =96 upotrebljava se u = > sjenilima za > oči, vla=9Enim kremama i pjenama za oblikovanje

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lang=3DHR>SQUALINE lang=3DHR> =96 mo=9Ee biti dobivena iz ulja jetre morskog psa; koristi = > se u > rumenilima, kremama i losionima za sunčanje

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STEARINSKA KISELINA (često = > iz > =9Eivotinjskih izvora) =96 mo=9Ee se naći u mnogim pre=9Aanim = > puderima, kremama, > ru=9Eevima za usne i losionima.

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Animal Free Shopper published by = > the Vegan > Society =96 www.vegsoc.org i href=3D"http://www.vegansociety.com/">www.vegansociety.com = >

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Meadowsweet =96 href=3D"http://www.meadowsweet.co.uk/">www.meadowsweet.co.uk i Email = > href=3D"mailto:sales@meadowsweet.co.uk">sales@meadowsweet.co.uk. = >

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> > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > To: "Prava zivotinja" > Cc: > Subject: Re: ideja > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:18 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokusaj > kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvoðenje vega-burgera u restorane ili > veæ sto se smisli ili koncerta na trgu èija bi zarada isla za poboljsanje > uvjeta u zagrebaèkom zoo-u. > > Bok Mladene, > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. > > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > dosta sumnjicav. > > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije razmisljao. > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > mnogo ljudi. > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > Pozdrav, > Hrvoje > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: ured > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:07 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos samo pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili = > nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva prava zadrzana su kod Stephana = > (naseg dekoratera). > > Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak Masha kojem pripada i Zeleni Mash i = > preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na neki drugi sastanak tek = > toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je bilo uzasno... ali = > mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o cemu pricaju. > > Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu grupu, nisu mi se cinili previse = > zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju da smo tamo, tko smo = > i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo potrebno. > > Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne trebaju, a smatra da bi u uredu = > dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da to donese. > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj aka XTX > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
 
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DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = > LJUDI BI BILI=20 > VEGETARIJANCI
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Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos = > samo=20 > pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva = > prava=20 > zadrzana su kod Stephana (naseg dekoratera).
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Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak = > Masha kojem=20 > pripada i Zeleni Mash i preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na = > neki drugi=20 > sastanak tek toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je = > bilo=20 > uzasno... ali mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o = > cemu=20 > pricaju.
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Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu = > grupu, nisu=20 > mi se cinili previse zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju = > da smo=20 > tamo, tko smo i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo = > potrebno.
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Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne = > trebaju, a=20 > smatra da bi u uredu dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da = > to=20 > donese.
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Pozdrav,
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0-- > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest drago mi je sto vam se svidjaju moji prijedlozi i najvjerovatnije ęu se pojaviti na cvjetnom u subotu od 11-14 ako našem vremena (moram učiti) i da se upoznam sa vama i možda aktivno uključim u vaše projekte. jedino bih vas molio da mi pobliže objasnite gdje se točno nalazite na cvjetnom trgu jer ne poznam taj dio zagreba( kao i zagreb opcenito) bas najbolje. sto se kocerta tice ja sam na umu vise imao neku mjesavinu punk ili rock koncerta no mislim da je vasa ideja jos bolja jer ionako vecina ljudi slusa komercijalnu estradnu glazbu pa ce mozda pojava gorana karana i slicnih vise pomoci zivotinjama ili nekom slicnom nego na primjer fakof bolan. nadam se da se cujemo Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 16:13:23 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 08:13:23 -0800 Subject: pocetak akcije Message-ID: <20010308161323.14499.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > ======================================================================== > > > Po¹aljite Prava-zivotinja zahtjev za mailing listu na > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Ako se ¾elite upisati ili ispisati putem World Wide Weba, posjetite > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > ili putem e-maila po¹aljite poruku sa subjektom ili tekstom poruke > "help" na > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > Osobu koja vodi listu mo¾ete kontaktirati na > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > Kad ¹aljete odgovor (reply) molimo vas dodajte subjekt tako da bude > preciznije od "Re: Sadr¾aji Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > ======================================================================== > > > Send Prava-zivotinja mailing list submissions to > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ideja ( Mae) > 2. Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Hrvoje Nezic) > 3. Re: ideja (Hrvoje Nezic) > 4. ured (Veganska akcija) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: " Mae" > To: > Subject: Re: ideja > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:35:25 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Mladen > > Koliko je meni poznato u Zagrebu se planiraju akcije na otvorenom (ako nisam nesto pobrkala) i to gotovo svake subote. Za vise informacija o tome mozes se obratiti Taricu na taric@zamir.net pa se mozda zajedno nesto dogovorite. Ne znam tocno sto se planira ali ce tvoja pomoc i prijedlozi sigurno biti dobrodosli. > Pozdrav > > Mae > www.djurensratt.org > www.greenpeace.se > www.oceanfutures.org > www.majks.com/achakpage > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mladen katani" > Cc: ; > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:54 AM > Subject: ideja > > > > On Tue, 06 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > > > > > > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > > > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > > > ======================================================================== > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Prava_=BEivotinja?= > Cc: "Damir Tiljak" > Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:14:18 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0" > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-2" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslala > Sandra iz Rijeke. > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-2" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-2"> > > > > >
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Članak = > iz > časopisa Hair style, march 2001

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style=3D'text-align:justify;text-indent:36.0pt'> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso= > -bidi-font-family: > "Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:HR'>Britanci su poznati kao = > ljubitelji > =9Eivotinja i mnogi od nas će reći da se ne sla=9Eemo s mnogim = > oblicima > okrutnosti prema =9Eivotinjama, osobito ako su nepotrebni. Kao nacija, = > sa lomom > CJD-a i zabrinuto=9Aću zbog pesticida, svi smo postali svjesniji = > onoga =9Ato > stavljamo u svoja tijela. I tako ste mogli razviti zdraviji način = > =9Eivota > zadnjih nekoliko godina, i mogli ste biti uvjereni da postanete = > vegetarijanac, > ali da li se to proteglo na va=9Ae prizvode za uljep=9Aavanje? Neznanje = > je > bla=9Eenstvo neki ka=9Eu, ali samo nekoliko promjena na va=9Aoj listi za = > kupovinu i > vi mo=9Eete zauvijek isprati svaku krivicu sa svoje = > kose.

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lang=3DHR>Jedan od velikih > problema mo=9Ee biti da iako vi imate dobre namjere, smjernice koje su > postavljene od strane kompanija znače da vi kupujete proizvode koji = > sadr=9Ee > sastojke koje vi ne =9Eelite. 'Većina =9Eena provodi sate svakog = > tjedna > brinući se za svoju ko=9Eu. Kupujemo proizvode za = > či=9Aćenje, > tonike, kreme za dan, kreme za noć, gelove za njegu očiju, = > losione za > tijelo, losione protiv celulita, da navedemo samo neke. Voljni smo = > isprobati > skoro sve =9Ato nam obećava ljepotu =96 pogotovo ako je to = > prirodno,' ka=9Ee > Charlotte. 'Danas se skoro svaki proizvod za njegu ko=9Ee na tr=9Ei=9Atu = > opisuje kao > prirodan i čist. To je dana=9Anja marketin=9Aka riječ koja = > zvrnda i ona > prodaje. Primjenjena na proizvode za njegu ko=9Ee, to je također i = > najvi=9Ae > zloupotrebljavana riječ u engleskom jeziku. U 'prirodnim' = > proizvodima je > tisuće kemikalija, mo=9Ee ih biti i do 20 u bilo kojem proizvodu. = > To mo=9Ee > biti obman (prevara), ali nije ilegalno. Većina kemikalija koje = > nalazimo u > na=9Aoj kozmetici se malo ili uopće ne razlikuje od o=9Atrih, = > otrovnih kemikalija > koje se koriste u industriji. Neki sastojci kori=9Ateni u = > kozmetičkoj > industriji su stvarno opasni za zdravlje, ali to nam naravno nije = > rečeno. > Bilo kako bilo, nema razloga da ostanemo neinformirani. Tko uopće = > =9Eeli > oči koje peku, crvenu ko=9Eu, ili alergični dermatitis, a da i = > ne > spominjemo povećan rizik od raka?

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Ako = > patite od > alergija mo=9Eda ste već bili prisiljeni tra=9Eiti prirodne = > proizvode zbog > toga =9Ato su dva vodeća razloga alergija i iritacija u kozmetici = > mirisi i > sredstva za konzerviranje. 'Ako patite od suzenja očiju, crvenila = > ko=9Ee ili > iritacije, krivac mo=9Ee biti miris dodan u kozmetiku,' upozorava = > Charlotte. > Drugi, obično navedeni simptomi uključuju mučninu, = > promjene > raspolo=9Eenja, depresiju, letargiju, nemir, iritabilnost, propadanje = > pamćenja > i nesposobnost koncentracije =96 i sve to od pranja kose!

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Ako = > ovo nije > dovoljno da se upoznate sa svojom lokalnom vegan kozmetičkom > prodavaonicom, mo=9Eda će činjenica da mnoge =9Eivotinje = > okrutno pate > svake godine u ime snage ljepote, učiniti da ne zanemarujete =9Ato = > ide u > va=9Ae =9Aampone i balzame. Na primjer, keratin koji dolazi iz vune ili = > perja je > upotrebljen u balzamima kao i kolagen iz =9Eivotinjskih vezivnih = > tkiva.

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Bez = > da > zvučimo kao sve voleći hipi na improviziranoj uličnoj = > govornici, > kako njegovati svoju kosu bez da ozlijedite bilo koju =9Eivotinju. Pa, = > postoji > vi=9Ae pravaca. Najva=9Enije je naći kompaniju s reputacijom koje = > su popisali > British Union for Abolition of Vivisection (BUAV) i Vegan Society. = >

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lang=3DHR>Jedna takva > kompanija je Meadowsweet, u Suffolku. Njen glasnogovornik ka=9Ee: = > =93Pred vi=9Ae od > 15 godina osjetili smo da postoji pozitivna potreba za visoko = > kvalitetnim nizom > proizvoda za njegu kose, tijela i ko=9Ee koji upotrebljavaju prirodan = > organski > tip sastojaka, umjesto onih dobijenih od =9Eivotinja. Također smo = > osjetili > da ti produkti moraju biti novčano dostupni svima i, najva=9Enije, = > ne smiju > biti testirani na =9Eivotinjama.=94

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VRHUNSKA KVALITETA

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Ne = > dajte se zavarati > mi=9Aljenjem da će zbog toga =9Ato raste va=9Aa savjest, proizvodi = > koje > ćete upotrebljavati gubiti na kvaliteti. Postoji mnogo dobro = > poznatih > vrsta proizvoda na tr=9Ei=9Atu uključujući Crabtree & = > Evelyn i Aveda. > Provjerite na internet stranici Dru=9Atva vegana (Vegan Society = > website) style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 opse=9Eni popis kompanija koje = > rade s > produktima koje nisu neprijateljske prema =9Eivotinjama (animal friendly > products). Čak ne morate prestati ugađati samima = > sebi.

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lang=3DHR>Saloni i > proizvodi (za njegu kose) Daniela Fielda po=9Atuju veganske principe = > (vegan > friendly) =93Ovo je kompanija za ljubitelje =9Eivotinja=94, ka=9Ee = > Daniel Field, =93u > mojim proizvodima čak nema ni meda. Osjećam da vodim vrlo = > korektan i > po=9Aten posao, s vrlo velikom poslovnom satisfakcijom. Sva na=9Aa = > bojila nisu style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =9Atetna jer ne sadr=9Ee nikakve = > kemikalije i > po=9Ato imamo svoj laboratorij koji se zove Organsko mineralni = > istra=9Eivački > institut (Organics Mineral Research Institute) mo=9Eemo garantirati da = > su svi > na=9Ai sastojci ovjereni kao ne testirani na =9Eivotinjama. Ljudi =9Eele = > moje > proizvode jer ne smrde na kemikalije a to je tako zato =9Ato ni ne = > sadr=9Ee bilo > kakve, i zato je kosa savr=9Aeno sigurna.=94

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SASTOJCI DOBIJENI OD =8EIVOTINJA, = >

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A OBIČNO KORI=8ATENI U = > KOZMETIČKIM > PROIZVODIMA

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LOJ I SVINJSKA MAST = > (=9Eivotinjske masti) =96 > mogu se naći u sapunima i u kremama

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KOLAGEN =96 iz =9Eivotinjskih = > vezivnih tkiva; > koristi se u vla=9Enim kremama i balzamima za kosu

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HITIN =96 iz morskih rakova i = > rakovih > lju=9Atura; koristi se kao zgu=9Anjivač u =9Aamponima, balzamima i = > za njegu ko=9Ee

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ELASTIN =96 je =9Eivotinjski = > protein ; koristi > se u vla=9Enim kremama

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MASNE KISELINE (ponekada iz = > =9Eivotinjske > masti) =96 mogu se naći u dezodoransima, podlozi krema, ru=9Eevima = > za usne i > pjenu=9Aavim kupkama

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GLICERIN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 > (bazirana =9Eivotinjska ili biljna mast) =96 upotrebljava se kao = > sredstvo za > ubla=9Eavanje (omek=9Aavanje ko=9Ee)

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KERATIN =96 često dobiven iz = > vune ili > perja; upotrebljava se u balzamima za kosu i nokte

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LANOLIN =96 upotrebljava se u = > ru=9Eevima za usne > i losionima

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MO=8AUS, CIBET I KASTOREUM =96 = > hormoni dobiveni > iz analnih i seksualnih =9Elijezda =9Eivih =9Eivotinja (posebno = > uzgajanih jelena, > cibetnih mačaka u kavezu i zatočenih dabrova); koriste ih > visokotr=9Ei=9Ani proizvođači parfema koji =9Eele da se njihov = > miris (trag) > dugo zadr=9Ei na ko=9Ei

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SVILA =96 upotrebljava se u = > sjenilima za > oči, vla=9Enim kremama i pjenama za oblikovanje

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lang=3DHR>SQUALINE lang=3DHR> =96 mo=9Ee biti dobivena iz ulja jetre morskog psa; koristi = > se u > rumenilima, kremama i losionima za sunčanje

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STEARINSKA KISELINA (često = > iz > =9Eivotinjskih izvora) =96 mo=9Ee se naći u mnogim pre=9Aanim = > puderima, kremama, > ru=9Eevima za usne i losionima.

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Animal Free Shopper published by = > the Vegan > Society =96 www.vegsoc.org i href=3D"http://www.vegansociety.com/">www.vegansociety.com = >

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Meadowsweet =96 href=3D"http://www.meadowsweet.co.uk/">www.meadowsweet.co.uk i Email = > href=3D"mailto:sales@meadowsweet.co.uk">sales@meadowsweet.co.uk. = >

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> > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > To: "Prava zivotinja" > Cc: > Subject: Re: ideja > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:18 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokusaj > kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvoðenje vega-burgera u restorane ili > veæ sto se smisli ili koncerta na trgu èija bi zarada isla za poboljsanje > uvjeta u zagrebaèkom zoo-u. > > Bok Mladene, > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. > > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > dosta sumnjicav. > > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije razmisljao. > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > mnogo ljudi. > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > Pozdrav, > Hrvoje > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: ured > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:07 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos samo pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili = > nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva prava zadrzana su kod Stephana = > (naseg dekoratera). > > Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak Masha kojem pripada i Zeleni Mash i = > preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na neki drugi sastanak tek = > toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je bilo uzasno... ali = > mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o cemu pricaju. > > Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu grupu, nisu mi se cinili previse = > zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju da smo tamo, tko smo = > i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo potrebno. > > Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne trebaju, a smatra da bi u uredu = > dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da to donese. > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj aka XTX > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
 
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Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos = > samo=20 > pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva = > prava=20 > zadrzana su kod Stephana (naseg dekoratera).
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Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak = > Masha kojem=20 > pripada i Zeleni Mash i preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na = > neki drugi=20 > sastanak tek toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je = > bilo=20 > uzasno... ali mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o = > cemu=20 > pricaju.
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Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu = > grupu, nisu=20 > mi se cinili previse zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju = > da smo=20 > tamo, tko smo i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo = > potrebno.
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Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne = > trebaju, a=20 > smatra da bi u uredu dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da = > to=20 > donese.
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Pozdrav,
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Domagoj aka = > XTX
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0-- > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest drago mi je sto vam se svidjaju moji prijedlozi i najvjerovatnije ęu se pojaviti na cvjetnom u subotu od 11-14 ako našem vremena (moram učiti) i da se upoznam sa vama i možda aktivno uključim u vaše projekte. jedino bih vas molio da mi pobliže objasnite gdje se točno nalazite na cvjetnom trgu jer ne poznam taj dio zagreba( kao i zagreb opcenito) bas najbolje. sto se kocerta tice ja sam na umu vise imao neku mjesavinu punk ili rock koncerta no mislim da je vasa ideja jos bolja jer ionako vecina ljudi slusa komercijalnu estradnu glazbu pa ce mozda pojava gorana karana i slicnih vise pomoci zivotinjama ili nekom slicnom nego na primjer fakof bolan. nadam se da se cujemo Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 16:43:00 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 08:43:00 -0800 Subject: Prava-zivotinja digest, Vol 1 #219 - 7 msgs Message-ID: <20010308164300.18183.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. 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SASTANAK (Veganska akcija) > 2. Fwd: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, (Tamara Frkac) > 3. Re: ideja (Veganska akcija) > 4. utociste za farmske zivotinje (Veganska akcija) > 5. Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Stela Suboticanec) > 6. Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Veganska akcija) > 7. pocetak akcije (mladen katani) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: SASTANAK > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:22:21 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > Na zadnjem sastanku u nedjelju dogovorili smo da bi mogli imati stalni = > termin sastanaka posto sad imamo svoj ured za koji ne trebamo dozvole. = > Mislimo da je najbolje subotom predvecer ili poslijepodne, znaci ili oko = > 17:00 ili cak 16:00h. Pa sad je vrijeme da se odlucimo. Termin moze biti = > prebacen koji sat poslije, znaci najkasnije do 18:00h. (jer ima nas koji = > zelimo ici u disko, a varate se ako mislite da cu zakasniti u disko zbog = > nekakvog trulog sastanka) > > Taj termin poznat je kao 'sastanak subotnje veceri' i ako nekome = > slucajno ne odgovara slobodno neka se javi i predlozi neki drugi termin = > pa cemo ga staviti na razmatranje. > > Takoder imamo lagane probleme sa stolicama, a to je da ih uopce nemamo. = > Te ako netko ima kakvu dobro stolicu na rasklapanje ili neku stolicu = > koju moze posuditi na neko vrijeme neka je ponese :))) Struje imamo - = > svijece ne morate nositi :))) > > Dobro, to je to i sada moramo odrediti kada cemo se naci. Takoder molim = > standardnu ekipu sa sastanaka da najavi dolazak ili javi u slucaju da = > nece doci tek toliko da znamo sto se dogada. Dakle, javite se na ovu = > listu, moj mail taric@zamir.net ili 091 5397 222. > > Jos samo za kraj... (ali to vec ionako znate) - Obveznik koji se ne = > odazove na ovaj poziv i ne opravda izostanak, bit ce prisilno doveden, a = > podlijeze i drugoj propisanoj odgovornosti. > > Veganska inkvizicija, > Domagoj > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
 
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Na zadnjem sastanku u nedjelju = > dogovorili smo da bi=20 > mogli imati stalni termin sastanaka posto sad imamo svoj ured za koji ne = > trebamo=20 > dozvole. Mislimo da je najbolje subotom predvecer ili poslijepodne, = > znaci ili=20 > oko 17:00 ili cak 16:00h. Pa sad je vrijeme da se odlucimo. Termin = > moze=20 > biti prebacen koji sat poslije, znaci najkasnije do 18:00h. (jer = > ima nas=20 > koji zelimo ici u disko, a varate se ako mislite da cu zakasniti u disko = > zbog=20 > nekakvog trulog sastanka)
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Taj termin poznat je kao 'sastanak = > subotnje veceri'=20 > i ako nekome slucajno ne odgovara slobodno neka se javi i predlozi neki = > drugi=20 > termin pa cemo ga staviti na razmatranje.
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Takoder imamo lagane probleme sa = > stolicama, a to je=20 > da ih uopce nemamo. Te ako netko ima kakvu dobro stolicu na rasklapanje = > ili neku=20 > stolicu koju moze posuditi na neko vrijeme neka je ponese :))) Struje = > imamo -=20 > svijece ne morate nositi :)))
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Dobro, to je to i sada moramo odrediti = > kada cemo se=20 > naci. Takoder molim standardnu ekipu sa sastanaka da najavi dolazak ili = > javi u=20 > slucaju da nece doci tek toliko da znamo sto se dogada. Dakle, javite se = > na ovu=20 > listu, moj mail taric@zamir.net = > ili 091=20 > 5397 222.
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Jos samo za kraj... (ali to vec ionako = > znate)=20 > - Obveznik koji se ne odazove na ovaj poziv i ne opravda izostanak, = > bit ce=20 > prisilno doveden, a podlijeze i drugoj propisanoj = > odgovornosti.
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Veganska inkvizicija,
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Domagoj
> > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:54:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Tamara Frkac > Subject: Fwd: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, > To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > --- frontline@rocketmail.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:46:19 -0600 > > From: frontline@rocketmail.com > > To: frontline-news@waste.org > > Subject: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for > > Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, > > > > USA) > > Sender: owner-frontline-news@waste.org > > Precedence: bulk > > > > Frontline Information Service - News 3/07/01 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > EARTH LIBERATION FRONT CLAIMS > > RESPONSIBILITY FOR SMASHING WINDOWS & SIGN > > AT OLD NAVY OUTLET STORE ON LONG ISLAND, NY > > ___________________________________________ > > > > URGENT NEWS ADVISORY > > March 7, 2001 > > > > > > HUNTINGTON, LONG ISLAND, NY - The Earth Liberation > > Front (E.L.F.) has > > officially claimed responsibility for smashing over > > eight 10x10 insulated plate > > glass windows and one neon sign at the Old Navy > > Outlet Center in downtown > > Huntington, Long Island on March 5, 2001. > > > > A communique sent by the E.L.F. stated, "This action > > served as a protest to Old > > Navy's owners, the Fisher family's involvement in > > the clearcutting of old > > growth forest in the Northwest. These actions will > > continue until the Fisher > > family pulls economic support from the lumber > > industry, regardless of whether > > with the Pacific Lumber Company or otherwise." > > > > The Fisher family, which owns the Gap, Banana > > Republic, and Old Navy, recently > > purchased 235,000 acres of Mendicino County redwood > > forest in northern > > California. The Fisher's logging company, Mendicino > > Redwood Company, plans to > > clearcut large sections of land within this > > purchase. The company is also > > spraying Garlon, an herbicide related to Agent > > Orange, to eliminate ground > > vegetation. Garlon induces vomiting and weakness in > > humans and is known to > > severely disorient juvenile Coho salmon. > > > > The E.L.F. is an international underground > > organization that uses direct action > > in the form of economic sabotage to stop the > > exploitation and destruction of > > the natural environment. > > > > The communique continued, "Old Navy, Gap, Banana > > Republic care not for the > > species that call these forests home, care not for > > the animals that comprise > > their leather products, and care not for their > > garment workers underpaid, > > exploited and enslaved in overseas sweatshops." > > > > Since 1997, in the United States alone, the E.L.F. > > has caused near $40 million > > in damages to entities profiting off the destruction > > of the natural > > environment. > > > > The communique finished by stating, "As more and > > more minds continue to be > > exposed to the true nature of their greed, fewer and > > fewer will sit idly by, > > and the cries of the earth will not fall upon deaf > > ears. We will not stop. > > Love, The Elves." > > > > Contact: North American Earth Liberation Front Press > > Office > > 503.478.0902 http://www.earthliberationfront.com > > > > > > *A copy of the communique sent by the E.L.F. follows > > on page 2. > > > > > > > > COMMUNIQUE SENT BY THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT > > > > "During the evening of March 5th, members of the > > earth liberation front > > descended upon The Old Navy Outlet Center in > > downtown Huntington, Long Island, > > NY. We smashed over 8 10'x10' insulated plate glass > > windows and one neon sign. > > This action served as a protest to Old Navy's > > owners, the Fisher family's > > involvement in the clearcutting of old growth forest > > in the Pacific Northwest. > > These actions will continue until the Fisher family > > pulls economic support from > > the lumber industry, regardless of whether with the > > Pacific Lumber Company or > > otherwise. > > > > In the past week, mother nature has blessed the > > Northeast with snow, and we are > > reminded of our brothers and sisters in the > > Northwest, and their struggle to > > preserve what mother nature has blessed them with, > > the forests in the land that > > they call home. We will not sit idly by, and will > > do our best to amplify their > > voices, so that their message will get through to > > the Fisher family in the only > > language they know--economics. > > > > Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic care not for the > > species that call these forests > > home, care not for the animals that comprise their > > leather products, and care > > not for their garment workers underpaid, exploited > > and enslaved in overseas > > sweatshops. As more and more minds continue to be > > exposed to the true nature > > of their greed, fewer and fewer will sit idly by, > > and the cries of the earth > > will not fall upon deaf ears. 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Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: Re: ideja > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:55:02 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule > razne > > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda > > Ovo smo radili prije pet godina kada se McD tek otvorio. Na sam dan > otvorenja (tada je to organizirao Zagrebacki anarhisticki pokret) smo > dijelili letke ispred restorana u Jurisicevoj. Kasnije znam da se to > ponavljalo dosta puta i bilo je raznih reakcija, a bilo je i mnogo ilegalnih > direktnih akcija o kojima neznam bas mnogo. Mislim da je to moguce ponoviti, > a bilo bi lijepo da pocnemo s javnim prikazivanjem filma Mclibel u kojem se > radi o dvoje aktivista londonskog Greenpeaca koje je McD tuzio za klevetu, a > koji su na kraju 'pobijedili' iako su bili optuzeni. Dijeljenje letaka je > ionako mnogo jednostavnije, ali i manje bitno. > > >> ili pokusaj kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvoðenje vega-burgera u > restorane ili > > veæ sto se smisli > > Mislim da nesto slicno radi PeTA, ali nisam siguran treba li takvo sto > zapocinjati. Jer nije rijec samo o ubijanju zivotinja, McD spaljuje i rusi > tropske sume, izrabljuje radnike i manipulira djecom (izmedu ostalog), a > losa kvaliteta hrane i bolesti uzrokovane jedenjem iste su im zastitni znak. > Mislim da osobno ne bih bio sretan da netko pojede 'vege big mac' i oboli od > raka, a mi smo zadovoljni jer i McD ima vege hranu. Osobno bih vise volio da > propadnu, a manje da suradjujemo, ali ako bi uvodenje vegetarijanske hrane u > McD bio dobar potez za nas onda sam ZA. Dakle, ako se nade dovoljno razloga > da takvo sto zatrazimo, mislim da to ne bi trebao biti neki veliki problem. > Potrebno je nekoliko sastanaka s njima i treba osmisliti neko pismo s > prijedlogom. > > > Bok Mladene, > > > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. > > Mi smo tamo od otprilike 11:00 do kad nam se da, odnosno, ako nas ne > potjeraju vjetar, kisa (a prije dva tjedna) i snijeg, onda smo tamo do > najkasnije 16:00h. Stand je zadnja dva tjedna bio uz ogradu pravoslavne > crkve, ali sad cemo se malo maknuti, jer neki ljudi iz crkve nam ne daju da > stavljamo transparente po ogradi pa cemo ih razapeti izmedu drveca. > Uglavnom, ako netko zeli doci mi smo tamo jos dva tjedna, a onda idemo na > neku drugu lokaciju... > > > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. > > Mi imamo dva letka od Zapa (Zg anarhistickog pokreta), 'Sto ne valja s > McDonald'som?' i neki manji o povezanosti raka i jedenja u Mcdu. Ali skoro > da smo ih sve podijelili, jer ih ni nije bilo puno. > > > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. > > O tome treba dobro promisliti, jer kad su zadnji put organizirali akciju > 'Tri dana solidarnosti za Prag' netko je dosao na ideju otici u sam restoran > u Jurisicevoj i radili su neke nerede, bacali hranu ljudima koji su unutra > jeli i divljali su i vikali po restoranu sto se nije dopalo organizatorima. > Kad se radi u suradnji s njima treba znati da je vrlo lako moguce da nam > navuku ozbiljne probleme s policijom ili nesto slicno. Nisam ljubitelj > izravnog sukoba i ako ga je moguce izbjeci - izbjeci cu ga. > > > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > > dosta sumnjicav. > > Odgovorit ce sigurno, mozda cak i pozitivno. Vjerujem cak prije pozitivno, > nego negativno, ali nisam siguran da li je pametan potez suradivati s njima > kad i mi i svi ostali cijelo vrijeme pricamo protiv njih i radimo protiv > njih i voljeli bi da ih upropastimo. > > > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije > razmisljao. > > Ja sam takoder razmisljao o necem takvom, ali morate znati da je rijec o > jako puno posla. Mi smo se prije i financirali od organizacije mnogo manjih > koncerata, ali isto tako bilo je puno posla i oko toga. Koncert moze isto > tako biti i veliki gubitak - mi smo zbog niza gubitaka od koncerata i pali u > dugove, tako da ne mora obavezno poluciti uspjeh. > > > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > > mnogo ljudi. > > Mogu vam reci da smo samo stajanjem na Cvjetnom trgu pridobili nekoliko > ljudi, a vjerujem da bi koncert bi pun pogodak, ali ponavljam da je potrebno > jako puno raditi. > > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > Ima nekoliko i grupa i pjevaca koji bi se za npr. ZOO sigurno odazvali, ali > ne moramo gledati samo na Hrvatsku. Zasto ne pozvati Paul McCartneya ili > nekog slicnog. To bi sigurno uspjelo, a on je PeTAin clan i mozda bi ga na > tu foru uspjeli dovuci ovamo... > > Mozemo raditi nesto za utociste za farske zivotinje... > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: utociste za farmske zivotinje > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:03:16 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > =20 > U Zagrebu i Osijeku su nedavno otvoreni azili za napustene pse i macke. = > U Zagrebu cak postoji pored postojeceg azila i mnogo mjesta za izgradnju = > drugih azila. Nitko jos nije rekao da to smiju ili ne smiju biti azila = > za farmske zivotinje, ali zasto ne pokusati.=20 > > Ono sto predlazem je da napravimo projekt 'Utociste za farmske = > zivotinje' gdje bi s raznih farmi skupljali bolesne, stare i umorne = > zivotinje i smjestali ih u azil gdje bi u miru zivjeli do prirodne = > smrti.=20 > > Grad je takoder obecao i neka sredstva za izgradnju azila, ako je = > naravno takvo sto moguce na tom prostoru, ali koliko sam shvatio, ima = > jos jako puno mjesta pored azila za pse i macke. > > Osim toga postoje neke mogucnosti kako napraviti jeftino utociste od = > starih napustenih staja koje bi preselili na to podrucje ili = > sponzorstvom raznih gradevinskih firmi. Osim toga s jednom gospodicom iz = > udruge Druga prilika sam razgovarao o nekim mogucnostima prikupljanja = > novca za takvo sto. Ima stvarno super ideja koje su cak i lako izvedive. = > Naravno, mozemo racunati i na poprilicne donacije od raznih svjetskih = > drustava za zastitu zivotinja, ali i grupa za prava zivotinja. > > Kad bi pokrenuli veliku kampanju za takvo sto, vjerujem da bi i mnogi = > glazbenici rado nastupili na koncertima za taj projekt. Osim toga bilo = > bi dobro da mi date par minuta da na sastanku kazem par stvari o tom = > utocistu, jer vjerujem da ce vam se dopasti. > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj > > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
 
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U Zagrebu i Osijeku su nedavno otvoreni = > azili za=20 > napustene pse i macke. U Zagrebu cak postoji pored postojeceg = > azila i mnogo=20 > mjesta za izgradnju drugih azila. Nitko jos nije rekao da to smiju ili = > ne smiju=20 > biti azila za farmske zivotinje, ali zasto ne pokusati.
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Ono sto predlazem je da napravimo = > projekt 'Utociste=20 > za farmske zivotinje' gdje bi s raznih farmi skupljali bolesne, stare i = > umorne=20 > zivotinje i smjestali ih u azil gdje bi u miru zivjeli do prirodne = > smrti.=20 >
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Grad je takoder obecao i neka sredstva = > za izgradnju=20 > azila, ako je naravno takvo sto moguce na tom prostoru, ali koliko sam = > shvatio,=20 > ima jos jako puno mjesta pored azila za pse i macke.
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Osim toga postoje neke mogucnosti kako = > napraviti=20 > jeftino utociste od starih napustenih staja koje bi preselili na to = > podrucje ili=20 > sponzorstvom raznih gradevinskih firmi. Osim toga s jednom gospodicom iz = > udruge=20 > Druga prilika sam razgovarao o nekim mogucnostima prikupljanja novca za = > takvo=20 > sto. Ima stvarno super ideja koje su cak i lako izvedive. Naravno, = > mozemo=20 > racunati i na poprilicne donacije od raznih svjetskih drustava za = > zastitu=20 > zivotinja, ali i grupa za prava zivotinja.
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Kad bi pokrenuli veliku kampanju za = > takvo sto,=20 > vjerujem da bi i mnogi glazbenici rado nastupili na koncertima za taj = > projekt.=20 > Osim toga bilo bi dobro da mi date par minuta da na sastanku kazem par = > stvari o=20 > tom utocistu, jer vjerujem da ce vam se dopasti.
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:31:04 +0000 > From: Stela Suboticanec > Organization: Pliva d.d. > To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > Subject: Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski > proizvodaci. > Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski > proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? > Ideje su super! > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! > Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota > Stela > > Hrvoje Nezic wrote: > > > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslalaSandra iz Rijeke. > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:57:14 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > > Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski > > proizvodaci. > > Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski > > proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? > > Ima prodavaonica Lush u Petrinjskoj 4 ili 6, sto je jako blizu Trgu bana > Jelacica. Tamo su pretezno veganski proizvodi, ali ima i nekih s mlijekom i > medom. Niti jedan proizvod nije testiran na zivotinjama, a ne koriste ni > suvisna pakiranja. Inace, njihova ponuda je nesto najbolje sto sam ikada u > zivotu vidio, tko jednom ode tamo sigurno ce se vratiti. Preporucam! (jedino > su jako skupi) Osim Lush postoji i DM (Drogerie Markt?) koji prodaju neke > proizvode koji nisu testirani i koji su veganski. Nedavno sam dobio litru > tekuceg sapuna od firme Genera i proizvod je veganski, netestiran, a > odlican. > > > Ideje su super! > > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > Meni se isto cini da bi u krajnjem slucaju bilo jako upitno jesu li ti > 'vege' proizvodi stvarno veganski ili vegetarijanski, jer ipak je rijec o > zlocincima i prevarantima. > > > Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! > > Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota > > Stela > > Pozdrav Stela i nadam se da se vidimo i na sastanku u subotu oko 17:00 u > Gundulicevoj 21a u podrumskim prostorijama. > Domagoj > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: 8 Mar 2001 08:13:23 -0800 > From: mladen katani > Cc: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net, prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > Subject: pocetak akcije > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > On Thu, 08 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > > > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > Po¹aljite Prava-zivotinja zahtjev za mailing listu na > > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > Ako se ¾elite upisati ili ispisati putem World Wide Weba, posjetite > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > ili putem e-maila po¹aljite poruku sa subjektom ili tekstom poruke > > "help" na > > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > > > Osobu koja vodi listu mo¾ete kontaktirati na > > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > > > Kad ¹aljete odgovor (reply) molimo vas dodajte subjekt tako da bude > > preciznije od "Re: Sadr¾aji Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > Send Prava-zivotinja mailing list submissions to > > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: ideja ( Mae) > > 2. Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Hrvoje Nezic) > > 3. Re: ideja (Hrvoje Nezic) > > 4. ured (Veganska akcija) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: " Mae" > > To: > > Subject: Re: ideja > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:35:25 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > Mladen > > > > Koliko je meni poznato u Zagrebu se planiraju akcije na otvorenom (ako nisam nesto pobrkala) i to gotovo svake subote. Za vise informacija o tome mozes se obratiti Taricu na taric@zamir.net pa se mozda zajedno nesto dogovorite. Ne znam tocno sto se planira ali ce tvoja pomoc i prijedlozi sigurno biti dobrodosli. > > Pozdrav > > > > Mae > > www.djurensratt.org > > www.greenpeace.se > > www.oceanfutures.org > > www.majks.com/achakpage > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mladen katani" > > Cc: ; > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:54 AM > > Subject: ideja > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > > > > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > > To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Prava_=BEivotinja?= > > Cc: "Damir Tiljak" > > Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:14:18 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0" > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-2" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslala > > Sandra iz Rijeke. > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-2" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-2"> > > > > > > > > > >
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Ako = > > patite od > > alergija mo=9Eda ste već bili prisiljeni tra=9Eiti prirodne = > > proizvode zbog > > toga =9Ato su dva vodeća razloga alergija i iritacija u kozmetici = > > mirisi i > > sredstva za konzerviranje. 'Ako patite od suzenja očiju, crvenila = > > ko=9Ee ili > > iritacije, krivac mo=9Ee biti miris dodan u kozmetiku,' upozorava = > > Charlotte. > > Drugi, obično navedeni simptomi uključuju mučninu, = > > promjene > > raspolo=9Eenja, depresiju, letargiju, nemir, iritabilnost, propadanje = > > pamćenja > > i nesposobnost koncentracije =96 i sve to od pranja kose!

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Ako = > > ovo nije > > dovoljno da se upoznate sa svojom lokalnom vegan kozmetičkom > > prodavaonicom, mo=9Eda će činjenica da mnoge =9Eivotinje = > > okrutno pate > > svake godine u ime snage ljepote, učiniti da ne zanemarujete =9Ato = > > ide u > > va=9Ae =9Aampone i balzame. Na primjer, keratin koji dolazi iz vune ili = > > perja je > > upotrebljen u balzamima kao i kolagen iz =9Eivotinjskih vezivnih = > > tkiva.

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Bez = > > da > > zvučimo kao sve voleći hipi na improviziranoj uličnoj = > > govornici, > > kako njegovati svoju kosu bez da ozlijedite bilo koju =9Eivotinju. Pa, = > > postoji > > vi=9Ae pravaca. Najva=9Enije je naći kompaniju s reputacijom koje = > > su popisali > > British Union for Abolition of Vivisection (BUAV) i Vegan Society. = > >

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> lang=3DHR>Jedna takva > > kompanija je Meadowsweet, u Suffolku. Njen glasnogovornik ka=9Ee: = > > =93Pred vi=9Ae od > > 15 godina osjetili smo da postoji pozitivna potreba za visoko = > > kvalitetnim nizom > > proizvoda za njegu kose, tijela i ko=9Ee koji upotrebljavaju prirodan = > > organski > > tip sastojaka, umjesto onih dobijenih od =9Eivotinja. Također smo = > > osjetili > > da ti produkti moraju biti novčano dostupni svima i, najva=9Enije, = > > ne smiju > > biti testirani na =9Eivotinjama.=94

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> lang=3DHR>Meadowsweet je > > organiziran tako da razvije i prizvodi proizvode upotrebljavajući = > > prirodna > > ulja, ekstrakte biljaka i esencijalna ulja, od kojih su mnogi bili > > upotrebljavani stoljećima i zato neće trebati nikakvo okrutno > > testiranje na =9Eivotinjama. Da osiguraju kvalitetu, djelotvornost i = > > sigurnost > > zavr=9Anog proizvoda, koriste ljude koji volonterski isprobavaju nastali = > > proizvod > > i od kojih mogu dobiti detaljne komentare. =93Po na=9Aem mi=9Aljenju, = > > testovi > > izvedeni na =9Eivotinjama, osim =9Ato su nepotrebno okrutni, nemaju = > > vrijednosti jer > > se =9Eivotinje znatno razlikuju od ljudi i zato različito = > > reagiraju=94.

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VRHUNSKA KVALITETA

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Ne = > > dajte se zavarati > > mi=9Aljenjem da će zbog toga =9Ato raste va=9Aa savjest, proizvodi = > > koje > > ćete upotrebljavati gubiti na kvaliteti. Postoji mnogo dobro = > > poznatih > > vrsta proizvoda na tr=9Ei=9Atu uključujući Crabtree & = > > Evelyn i Aveda. > > Provjerite na internet stranici Dru=9Atva vegana (Vegan Society = > > website) > style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 opse=9Eni popis kompanija koje = > > rade s > > produktima koje nisu neprijateljske prema =9Eivotinjama (animal friendly > > products). Čak ne morate prestati ugađati samima = > > sebi.

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> lang=3DHR>Saloni i > > proizvodi (za njegu kose) Daniela Fielda po=9Atuju veganske principe = > > (vegan > > friendly) =93Ovo je kompanija za ljubitelje =9Eivotinja=94, ka=9Ee = > > Daniel Field, =93u > > mojim proizvodima čak nema ni meda. Osjećam da vodim vrlo = > > korektan i > > po=9Aten posao, s vrlo velikom poslovnom satisfakcijom. Sva na=9Aa = > > bojila nisu > style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =9Atetna jer ne sadr=9Ee nikakve = > > kemikalije i > > po=9Ato imamo svoj laboratorij koji se zove Organsko mineralni = > > istra=9Eivački > > institut (Organics Mineral Research Institute) mo=9Eemo garantirati da = > > su svi > > na=9Ai sastojci ovjereni kao ne testirani na =9Eivotinjama. Ljudi =9Eele = > > moje > > proizvode jer ne smrde na kemikalije a to je tako zato =9Ato ni ne = > > sadr=9Ee bilo > > kakve, i zato je kosa savr=9Aeno sigurna.=94

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SASTOJCI DOBIJENI OD =8EIVOTINJA, = > >

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A OBIČNO KORI=8ATENI U = > > KOZMETIČKIM > > PROIZVODIMA

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LOJ I SVINJSKA MAST = > > (=9Eivotinjske masti) =96 > > mogu se naći u sapunima i u kremama

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KOLAGEN =96 iz =9Eivotinjskih = > > vezivnih tkiva; > > koristi se u vla=9Enim kremama i balzamima za kosu

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HITIN =96 iz morskih rakova i = > > rakovih > > lju=9Atura; koristi se kao zgu=9Anjivač u =9Aamponima, balzamima i = > > za njegu ko=9Ee

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ELASTIN =96 je =9Eivotinjski = > > protein ; koristi > > se u vla=9Enim kremama

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MASNE KISELINE (ponekada iz = > > =9Eivotinjske > > masti) =96 mogu se naći u dezodoransima, podlozi krema, ru=9Eevima = > > za usne i > > pjenu=9Aavim kupkama

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GLICERIN > style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 > > (bazirana =9Eivotinjska ili biljna mast) =96 upotrebljava se kao = > > sredstvo za > > ubla=9Eavanje (omek=9Aavanje ko=9Ee)

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KERATIN =96 često dobiven iz = > > vune ili > > perja; upotrebljava se u balzamima za kosu i nokte

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LANOLIN =96 upotrebljava se u = > > ru=9Eevima za usne > > i losionima

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MO=8AUS, CIBET I KASTOREUM =96 = > > hormoni dobiveni > > iz analnih i seksualnih =9Elijezda =9Eivih =9Eivotinja (posebno = > > uzgajanih jelena, > > cibetnih mačaka u kavezu i zatočenih dabrova); koriste ih > > visokotr=9Ei=9Ani proizvođači parfema koji =9Eele da se njihov = > > miris (trag) > > dugo zadr=9Ei na ko=9Ei

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SVILA =96 upotrebljava se u = > > sjenilima za > > oči, vla=9Enim kremama i pjenama za oblikovanje

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> lang=3DHR>SQUALINE > lang=3DHR> =96 mo=9Ee biti dobivena iz ulja jetre morskog psa; koristi = > > se u > > rumenilima, kremama i losionima za sunčanje

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STEARINSKA KISELINA (često = > > iz > > =9Eivotinjskih izvora) =96 mo=9Ee se naći u mnogim pre=9Aanim = > > puderima, kremama, > > ru=9Eevima za usne i losionima.

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Animal Free Shopper published by = > > the Vegan > > Society =96 www.vegsoc.org i > href=3D"http://www.vegansociety.com/">www.vegansociety.com = > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0-- > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 3 > > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > > To: "Prava zivotinja" > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: ideja > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:18 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > > > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne > > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokusaj > > kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvoðenje vega-burgera u restorane ili > > veæ sto se smisli ili koncerta na trgu èija bi zarada isla za poboljsanje > > uvjeta u zagrebaèkom zoo-u. > > > > Bok Mladene, > > > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. > > > > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. > > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. > > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > > dosta sumnjicav. > > > > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije razmisljao. > > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > > mnogo ljudi. > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > > > Pozdrav, > > Hrvoje > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > From: "Veganska akcija" > > To: > > Subject: ured > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:07 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > > > Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos samo pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili = > > nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva prava zadrzana su kod Stephana = > > (naseg dekoratera). > > > > Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak Masha kojem pripada i Zeleni Mash i = > > preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na neki drugi sastanak tek = > > toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je bilo uzasno... ali = > > mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o cemu pricaju. > > > > Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu grupu, nisu mi se cinili previse = > > zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju da smo tamo, tko smo = > > i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo potrebno. > > > > Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne trebaju, a smatra da bi u uredu = > > dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da to donese. > > > > Pozdrav, > > Domagoj aka XTX > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > > > > > >
 
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Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos = > > samo=20 > > pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva = > > prava=20 > > zadrzana su kod Stephana (naseg dekoratera).
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Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak = > > Masha kojem=20 > > pripada i Zeleni Mash i preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na = > > neki drugi=20 > > sastanak tek toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je = > > bilo=20 > > uzasno... ali mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o = > > cemu=20 > > pricaju.
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Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu = > > grupu, nisu=20 > > mi se cinili previse zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju = > > da smo=20 > > tamo, tko smo i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo = > > potrebno.
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Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne = > > trebaju, a=20 > > smatra da bi u uredu dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da = > > to=20 > > donese.
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> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0-- > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest > > > drago mi je sto vam se svidjaju moji prijedlozi i najvjerovatnije æu se pojaviti na cvjetnom u subotu od 11-14 ako naðem vremena (moram uèiti) i da se upoznam sa vama i možda aktivno ukljuèim u vaše projekte. jedino bih vas molio da mi pobliže objasnite gdje se toèno nalazite na cvjetnom trgu jer ne poznam taj dio zagreba( kao i zagreb opcenito) bas najbolje. > sto se kocerta tice ja sam na umu vise imao neku mjesavinu punk ili rock koncerta no mislim da je vasa ideja jos bolja jer ionako vecina ljudi slusa komercijalnu estradnu glazbu pa ce mozda pojava gorana karana i slicnih vise pomoci zivotinjama ili nekom slicnom nego na primjer fakof bolan. nadam se da se cujemo > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest kako netko ne bi ovamo nesto krivo pomislio ja sam zadrti protivnik Mcdonaldsa i slicnih kompanija jer imam anarhističke poglede na svijet i ljude no drzim da treba biti realista-idealista što bi u Mcdonldsovom slucaju znacilo da ako veę ne možeš obijediti zlo uvuci mu se u krv pa odatle djeluj na njegove stanice.(razumijete sta hocu reci) no ipak bih najsretniji bio kad bi svi mcdonaldsovi restorani izgorjeli. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 16:43:00 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 08:43:00 -0800 Subject: Prava-zivotinja digest, Vol 1 #219 - 7 msgs Message-ID: <20010308164300.18183.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > ======================================================================== > > > Po¹aljite Prava-zivotinja zahtjev za mailing listu na > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Ako se ¾elite upisati ili ispisati putem World Wide Weba, posjetite > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > ili putem e-maila po¹aljite poruku sa subjektom ili tekstom poruke > "help" na > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > Osobu koja vodi listu mo¾ete kontaktirati na > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > Kad ¹aljete odgovor (reply) molimo vas dodajte subjekt tako da bude > preciznije od "Re: Sadr¾aji Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > ======================================================================== > > > Send Prava-zivotinja mailing list submissions to > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. SASTANAK (Veganska akcija) > 2. Fwd: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, (Tamara Frkac) > 3. Re: ideja (Veganska akcija) > 4. utociste za farmske zivotinje (Veganska akcija) > 5. Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Stela Suboticanec) > 6. Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Veganska akcija) > 7. pocetak akcije (mladen katani) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: SASTANAK > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:22:21 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > Na zadnjem sastanku u nedjelju dogovorili smo da bi mogli imati stalni = > termin sastanaka posto sad imamo svoj ured za koji ne trebamo dozvole. = > Mislimo da je najbolje subotom predvecer ili poslijepodne, znaci ili oko = > 17:00 ili cak 16:00h. Pa sad je vrijeme da se odlucimo. Termin moze biti = > prebacen koji sat poslije, znaci najkasnije do 18:00h. (jer ima nas koji = > zelimo ici u disko, a varate se ako mislite da cu zakasniti u disko zbog = > nekakvog trulog sastanka) > > Taj termin poznat je kao 'sastanak subotnje veceri' i ako nekome = > slucajno ne odgovara slobodno neka se javi i predlozi neki drugi termin = > pa cemo ga staviti na razmatranje. > > Takoder imamo lagane probleme sa stolicama, a to je da ih uopce nemamo. = > Te ako netko ima kakvu dobro stolicu na rasklapanje ili neku stolicu = > koju moze posuditi na neko vrijeme neka je ponese :))) Struje imamo - = > svijece ne morate nositi :))) > > Dobro, to je to i sada moramo odrediti kada cemo se naci. Takoder molim = > standardnu ekipu sa sastanaka da najavi dolazak ili javi u slucaju da = > nece doci tek toliko da znamo sto se dogada. Dakle, javite se na ovu = > listu, moj mail taric@zamir.net ili 091 5397 222. > > Jos samo za kraj... (ali to vec ionako znate) - Obveznik koji se ne = > odazove na ovaj poziv i ne opravda izostanak, bit ce prisilno doveden, a = > podlijeze i drugoj propisanoj odgovornosti. > > Veganska inkvizicija, > Domagoj > > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
 
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DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = > LJUDI BI BILI=20 > VEGETARIJANCI
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Na zadnjem sastanku u nedjelju = > dogovorili smo da bi=20 > mogli imati stalni termin sastanaka posto sad imamo svoj ured za koji ne = > trebamo=20 > dozvole. Mislimo da je najbolje subotom predvecer ili poslijepodne, = > znaci ili=20 > oko 17:00 ili cak 16:00h. Pa sad je vrijeme da se odlucimo. Termin = > moze=20 > biti prebacen koji sat poslije, znaci najkasnije do 18:00h. (jer = > ima nas=20 > koji zelimo ici u disko, a varate se ako mislite da cu zakasniti u disko = > zbog=20 > nekakvog trulog sastanka)
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Taj termin poznat je kao 'sastanak = > subotnje veceri'=20 > i ako nekome slucajno ne odgovara slobodno neka se javi i predlozi neki = > drugi=20 > termin pa cemo ga staviti na razmatranje.
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Takoder imamo lagane probleme sa = > stolicama, a to je=20 > da ih uopce nemamo. Te ako netko ima kakvu dobro stolicu na rasklapanje = > ili neku=20 > stolicu koju moze posuditi na neko vrijeme neka je ponese :))) Struje = > imamo -=20 > svijece ne morate nositi :)))
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Dobro, to je to i sada moramo odrediti = > kada cemo se=20 > naci. Takoder molim standardnu ekipu sa sastanaka da najavi dolazak ili = > javi u=20 > slucaju da nece doci tek toliko da znamo sto se dogada. Dakle, javite se = > na ovu=20 > listu, moj mail taric@zamir.net = > ili 091=20 > 5397 222.
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Jos samo za kraj... (ali to vec ionako = > znate)=20 > - Obveznik koji se ne odazove na ovaj poziv i ne opravda izostanak, = > bit ce=20 > prisilno doveden, a podlijeze i drugoj propisanoj = > odgovornosti.
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Veganska inkvizicija,
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Domagoj
> > ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A7C2.0AB98BC0-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:54:18 -0800 (PST) > From: Tamara Frkac > Subject: Fwd: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, > To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > --- frontline@rocketmail.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:46:19 -0600 > > From: frontline@rocketmail.com > > To: frontline-news@waste.org > > Subject: Frontline: ELF Claims Responsibility for > > Smashing Windows at Old Navy Store (NY, > > > > USA) > > Sender: owner-frontline-news@waste.org > > Precedence: bulk > > > > Frontline Information Service - News 3/07/01 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > EARTH LIBERATION FRONT CLAIMS > > RESPONSIBILITY FOR SMASHING WINDOWS & SIGN > > AT OLD NAVY OUTLET STORE ON LONG ISLAND, NY > > ___________________________________________ > > > > URGENT NEWS ADVISORY > > March 7, 2001 > > > > > > HUNTINGTON, LONG ISLAND, NY - The Earth Liberation > > Front (E.L.F.) has > > officially claimed responsibility for smashing over > > eight 10x10 insulated plate > > glass windows and one neon sign at the Old Navy > > Outlet Center in downtown > > Huntington, Long Island on March 5, 2001. > > > > A communique sent by the E.L.F. stated, "This action > > served as a protest to Old > > Navy's owners, the Fisher family's involvement in > > the clearcutting of old > > growth forest in the Northwest. These actions will > > continue until the Fisher > > family pulls economic support from the lumber > > industry, regardless of whether > > with the Pacific Lumber Company or otherwise." > > > > The Fisher family, which owns the Gap, Banana > > Republic, and Old Navy, recently > > purchased 235,000 acres of Mendicino County redwood > > forest in northern > > California. The Fisher's logging company, Mendicino > > Redwood Company, plans to > > clearcut large sections of land within this > > purchase. The company is also > > spraying Garlon, an herbicide related to Agent > > Orange, to eliminate ground > > vegetation. Garlon induces vomiting and weakness in > > humans and is known to > > severely disorient juvenile Coho salmon. > > > > The E.L.F. is an international underground > > organization that uses direct action > > in the form of economic sabotage to stop the > > exploitation and destruction of > > the natural environment. > > > > The communique continued, "Old Navy, Gap, Banana > > Republic care not for the > > species that call these forests home, care not for > > the animals that comprise > > their leather products, and care not for their > > garment workers underpaid, > > exploited and enslaved in overseas sweatshops." > > > > Since 1997, in the United States alone, the E.L.F. > > has caused near $40 million > > in damages to entities profiting off the destruction > > of the natural > > environment. > > > > The communique finished by stating, "As more and > > more minds continue to be > > exposed to the true nature of their greed, fewer and > > fewer will sit idly by, > > and the cries of the earth will not fall upon deaf > > ears. We will not stop. > > Love, The Elves." > > > > Contact: North American Earth Liberation Front Press > > Office > > 503.478.0902 http://www.earthliberationfront.com > > > > > > *A copy of the communique sent by the E.L.F. follows > > on page 2. > > > > > > > > COMMUNIQUE SENT BY THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT > > > > "During the evening of March 5th, members of the > > earth liberation front > > descended upon The Old Navy Outlet Center in > > downtown Huntington, Long Island, > > NY. We smashed over 8 10'x10' insulated plate glass > > windows and one neon sign. > > This action served as a protest to Old Navy's > > owners, the Fisher family's > > involvement in the clearcutting of old growth forest > > in the Pacific Northwest. > > These actions will continue until the Fisher family > > pulls economic support from > > the lumber industry, regardless of whether with the > > Pacific Lumber Company or > > otherwise. > > > > In the past week, mother nature has blessed the > > Northeast with snow, and we are > > reminded of our brothers and sisters in the > > Northwest, and their struggle to > > preserve what mother nature has blessed them with, > > the forests in the land that > > they call home. We will not sit idly by, and will > > do our best to amplify their > > voices, so that their message will get through to > > the Fisher family in the only > > language they know--economics. > > > > Old Navy, Gap, Banana Republic care not for the > > species that call these forests > > home, care not for the animals that comprise their > > leather products, and care > > not for their garment workers underpaid, exploited > > and enslaved in overseas > > sweatshops. As more and more minds continue to be > > exposed to the true nature > > of their greed, fewer and fewer will sit idly by, > > and the cries of the earth > > will not fall upon deaf ears. 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Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: Re: ideja > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:55:02 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule > razne > > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda > > Ovo smo radili prije pet godina kada se McD tek otvorio. Na sam dan > otvorenja (tada je to organizirao Zagrebacki anarhisticki pokret) smo > dijelili letke ispred restorana u Jurisicevoj. Kasnije znam da se to > ponavljalo dosta puta i bilo je raznih reakcija, a bilo je i mnogo ilegalnih > direktnih akcija o kojima neznam bas mnogo. Mislim da je to moguce ponoviti, > a bilo bi lijepo da pocnemo s javnim prikazivanjem filma Mclibel u kojem se > radi o dvoje aktivista londonskog Greenpeaca koje je McD tuzio za klevetu, a > koji su na kraju 'pobijedili' iako su bili optuzeni. Dijeljenje letaka je > ionako mnogo jednostavnije, ali i manje bitno. > > >> ili pokusaj kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvoðenje vega-burgera u > restorane ili > > veæ sto se smisli > > Mislim da nesto slicno radi PeTA, ali nisam siguran treba li takvo sto > zapocinjati. Jer nije rijec samo o ubijanju zivotinja, McD spaljuje i rusi > tropske sume, izrabljuje radnike i manipulira djecom (izmedu ostalog), a > losa kvaliteta hrane i bolesti uzrokovane jedenjem iste su im zastitni znak. > Mislim da osobno ne bih bio sretan da netko pojede 'vege big mac' i oboli od > raka, a mi smo zadovoljni jer i McD ima vege hranu. Osobno bih vise volio da > propadnu, a manje da suradjujemo, ali ako bi uvodenje vegetarijanske hrane u > McD bio dobar potez za nas onda sam ZA. Dakle, ako se nade dovoljno razloga > da takvo sto zatrazimo, mislim da to ne bi trebao biti neki veliki problem. > Potrebno je nekoliko sastanaka s njima i treba osmisliti neko pismo s > prijedlogom. > > > Bok Mladene, > > > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. > > Mi smo tamo od otprilike 11:00 do kad nam se da, odnosno, ako nas ne > potjeraju vjetar, kisa (a prije dva tjedna) i snijeg, onda smo tamo do > najkasnije 16:00h. Stand je zadnja dva tjedna bio uz ogradu pravoslavne > crkve, ali sad cemo se malo maknuti, jer neki ljudi iz crkve nam ne daju da > stavljamo transparente po ogradi pa cemo ih razapeti izmedu drveca. > Uglavnom, ako netko zeli doci mi smo tamo jos dva tjedna, a onda idemo na > neku drugu lokaciju... > > > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. > > Mi imamo dva letka od Zapa (Zg anarhistickog pokreta), 'Sto ne valja s > McDonald'som?' i neki manji o povezanosti raka i jedenja u Mcdu. Ali skoro > da smo ih sve podijelili, jer ih ni nije bilo puno. > > > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. > > O tome treba dobro promisliti, jer kad su zadnji put organizirali akciju > 'Tri dana solidarnosti za Prag' netko je dosao na ideju otici u sam restoran > u Jurisicevoj i radili su neke nerede, bacali hranu ljudima koji su unutra > jeli i divljali su i vikali po restoranu sto se nije dopalo organizatorima. > Kad se radi u suradnji s njima treba znati da je vrlo lako moguce da nam > navuku ozbiljne probleme s policijom ili nesto slicno. Nisam ljubitelj > izravnog sukoba i ako ga je moguce izbjeci - izbjeci cu ga. > > > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > > dosta sumnjicav. > > Odgovorit ce sigurno, mozda cak i pozitivno. Vjerujem cak prije pozitivno, > nego negativno, ali nisam siguran da li je pametan potez suradivati s njima > kad i mi i svi ostali cijelo vrijeme pricamo protiv njih i radimo protiv > njih i voljeli bi da ih upropastimo. > > > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije > razmisljao. > > Ja sam takoder razmisljao o necem takvom, ali morate znati da je rijec o > jako puno posla. Mi smo se prije i financirali od organizacije mnogo manjih > koncerata, ali isto tako bilo je puno posla i oko toga. Koncert moze isto > tako biti i veliki gubitak - mi smo zbog niza gubitaka od koncerata i pali u > dugove, tako da ne mora obavezno poluciti uspjeh. > > > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > > mnogo ljudi. > > Mogu vam reci da smo samo stajanjem na Cvjetnom trgu pridobili nekoliko > ljudi, a vjerujem da bi koncert bi pun pogodak, ali ponavljam da je potrebno > jako puno raditi. > > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > Ima nekoliko i grupa i pjevaca koji bi se za npr. ZOO sigurno odazvali, ali > ne moramo gledati samo na Hrvatsku. Zasto ne pozvati Paul McCartneya ili > nekog slicnog. To bi sigurno uspjelo, a on je PeTAin clan i mozda bi ga na > tu foru uspjeli dovuci ovamo... > > Mozemo raditi nesto za utociste za farske zivotinje... > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: utociste za farmske zivotinje > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:03:16 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > =20 > U Zagrebu i Osijeku su nedavno otvoreni azili za napustene pse i macke. = > U Zagrebu cak postoji pored postojeceg azila i mnogo mjesta za izgradnju = > drugih azila. Nitko jos nije rekao da to smiju ili ne smiju biti azila = > za farmske zivotinje, ali zasto ne pokusati.=20 > > Ono sto predlazem je da napravimo projekt 'Utociste za farmske = > zivotinje' gdje bi s raznih farmi skupljali bolesne, stare i umorne = > zivotinje i smjestali ih u azil gdje bi u miru zivjeli do prirodne = > smrti.=20 > > Grad je takoder obecao i neka sredstva za izgradnju azila, ako je = > naravno takvo sto moguce na tom prostoru, ali koliko sam shvatio, ima = > jos jako puno mjesta pored azila za pse i macke. > > Osim toga postoje neke mogucnosti kako napraviti jeftino utociste od = > starih napustenih staja koje bi preselili na to podrucje ili = > sponzorstvom raznih gradevinskih firmi. Osim toga s jednom gospodicom iz = > udruge Druga prilika sam razgovarao o nekim mogucnostima prikupljanja = > novca za takvo sto. Ima stvarno super ideja koje su cak i lako izvedive. = > Naravno, mozemo racunati i na poprilicne donacije od raznih svjetskih = > drustava za zastitu zivotinja, ali i grupa za prava zivotinja. > > Kad bi pokrenuli veliku kampanju za takvo sto, vjerujem da bi i mnogi = > glazbenici rado nastupili na koncertima za taj projekt. Osim toga bilo = > bi dobro da mi date par minuta da na sastanku kazem par stvari o tom = > utocistu, jer vjerujem da ce vam se dopasti. > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj > > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
 
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U Zagrebu i Osijeku su nedavno otvoreni = > azili za=20 > napustene pse i macke. U Zagrebu cak postoji pored postojeceg = > azila i mnogo=20 > mjesta za izgradnju drugih azila. Nitko jos nije rekao da to smiju ili = > ne smiju=20 > biti azila za farmske zivotinje, ali zasto ne pokusati.
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Ono sto predlazem je da napravimo = > projekt 'Utociste=20 > za farmske zivotinje' gdje bi s raznih farmi skupljali bolesne, stare i = > umorne=20 > zivotinje i smjestali ih u azil gdje bi u miru zivjeli do prirodne = > smrti.=20 >
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Grad je takoder obecao i neka sredstva = > za izgradnju=20 > azila, ako je naravno takvo sto moguce na tom prostoru, ali koliko sam = > shvatio,=20 > ima jos jako puno mjesta pored azila za pse i macke.
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Osim toga postoje neke mogucnosti kako = > napraviti=20 > jeftino utociste od starih napustenih staja koje bi preselili na to = > podrucje ili=20 > sponzorstvom raznih gradevinskih firmi. Osim toga s jednom gospodicom iz = > udruge=20 > Druga prilika sam razgovarao o nekim mogucnostima prikupljanja novca za = > takvo=20 > sto. Ima stvarno super ideja koje su cak i lako izvedive. Naravno, = > mozemo=20 > racunati i na poprilicne donacije od raznih svjetskih drustava za = > zastitu=20 > zivotinja, ali i grupa za prava zivotinja.
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Kad bi pokrenuli veliku kampanju za = > takvo sto,=20 > vjerujem da bi i mnogi glazbenici rado nastupili na koncertima za taj = > projekt.=20 > Osim toga bilo bi dobro da mi date par minuta da na sastanku kazem par = > stvari o=20 > tom utocistu, jer vjerujem da ce vam se dopasti.
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Pozdrav,
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Domagoj
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C0A7C7.C1FD3020-- > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:31:04 +0000 > From: Stela Suboticanec > Organization: Pliva d.d. > To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > Subject: Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski > proizvodaci. > Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski > proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? > Ideje su super! > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! > Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota > Stela > > Hrvoje Nezic wrote: > > > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslalaSandra iz Rijeke. > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > From: "Veganska akcija" > To: > Subject: Re: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:57:14 +0100 > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > > Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski > > proizvodaci. > > Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski > > proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? > > Ima prodavaonica Lush u Petrinjskoj 4 ili 6, sto je jako blizu Trgu bana > Jelacica. Tamo su pretezno veganski proizvodi, ali ima i nekih s mlijekom i > medom. Niti jedan proizvod nije testiran na zivotinjama, a ne koriste ni > suvisna pakiranja. Inace, njihova ponuda je nesto najbolje sto sam ikada u > zivotu vidio, tko jednom ode tamo sigurno ce se vratiti. Preporucam! (jedino > su jako skupi) Osim Lush postoji i DM (Drogerie Markt?) koji prodaju neke > proizvode koji nisu testirani i koji su veganski. Nedavno sam dobio litru > tekuceg sapuna od firme Genera i proizvod je veganski, netestiran, a > odlican. > > > Ideje su super! > > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > Meni se isto cini da bi u krajnjem slucaju bilo jako upitno jesu li ti > 'vege' proizvodi stvarno veganski ili vegetarijanski, jer ipak je rijec o > zlocincima i prevarantima. > > > Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! > > Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota > > Stela > > Pozdrav Stela i nadam se da se vidimo i na sastanku u subotu oko 17:00 u > Gundulicevoj 21a u podrumskim prostorijama. > Domagoj > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: 8 Mar 2001 08:13:23 -0800 > From: mladen katani > Cc: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net, prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > Subject: pocetak akcije > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > On Thu, 08 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > > > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > Po¹aljite Prava-zivotinja zahtjev za mailing listu na > > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > Ako se ¾elite upisati ili ispisati putem World Wide Weba, posjetite > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > ili putem e-maila po¹aljite poruku sa subjektom ili tekstom poruke > > "help" na > > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > > > Osobu koja vodi listu mo¾ete kontaktirati na > > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > > > Kad ¹aljete odgovor (reply) molimo vas dodajte subjekt tako da bude > > preciznije od "Re: Sadr¾aji Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > Send Prava-zivotinja mailing list submissions to > > prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > prava-zivotinja-admin@zamir.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Prava-zivotinja digest..." > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: ideja ( Mae) > > 2. Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi (Hrvoje Nezic) > > 3. Re: ideja (Hrvoje Nezic) > > 4. ured (Veganska akcija) > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: " Mae" > > To: > > Subject: Re: ideja > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:35:25 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > Mladen > > > > Koliko je meni poznato u Zagrebu se planiraju akcije na otvorenom (ako nisam nesto pobrkala) i to gotovo svake subote. Za vise informacija o tome mozes se obratiti Taricu na taric@zamir.net pa se mozda zajedno nesto dogovorite. Ne znam tocno sto se planira ali ce tvoja pomoc i prijedlozi sigurno biti dobrodosli. > > Pozdrav > > > > Mae > > www.djurensratt.org > > www.greenpeace.se > > www.oceanfutures.org > > www.majks.com/achakpage > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mladen katani" > > Cc: ; > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:54 AM > > Subject: ideja > > > > > > > On Tue, 06 March 2001, prava-zivotinja-request@zamir.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is an automatic multi-language reply. Ovo je automatski > > > > vi¹ejezièni odgovor. > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > > To: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Prava_=BEivotinja?= > > Cc: "Damir Tiljak" > > Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:14:18 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0" > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-2" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslala > > Sandra iz Rijeke. > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01C0A7B0.27504AB0 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-2" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-2"> > > > > > > > > > >
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Članak = > > iz > > časopisa Hair style, march 2001

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> style=3D'text-align:justify;text-indent:36.0pt'> > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso= > > -bidi-font-family: > > "Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:HR'>Britanci su poznati kao = > > ljubitelji > > =9Eivotinja i mnogi od nas će reći da se ne sla=9Eemo s mnogim = > > oblicima > > okrutnosti prema =9Eivotinjama, osobito ako su nepotrebni. Kao nacija, = > > sa lomom > > CJD-a i zabrinuto=9Aću zbog pesticida, svi smo postali svjesniji = > > onoga =9Ato > > stavljamo u svoja tijela. I tako ste mogli razviti zdraviji način = > > =9Eivota > > zadnjih nekoliko godina, i mogli ste biti uvjereni da postanete = > > vegetarijanac, > > ali da li se to proteglo na va=9Ae prizvode za uljep=9Aavanje? Neznanje = > > je > > bla=9Eenstvo neki ka=9Eu, ali samo nekoliko promjena na va=9Aoj listi za = > > kupovinu i > > vi mo=9Eete zauvijek isprati svaku krivicu sa svoje = > > kose.

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> lang=3DHR>Jedan od velikih > > problema mo=9Ee biti da iako vi imate dobre namjere, smjernice koje su > > postavljene od strane kompanija znače da vi kupujete proizvode koji = > > sadr=9Ee > > sastojke koje vi ne =9Eelite. 'Većina =9Eena provodi sate svakog = > > tjedna > > brinući se za svoju ko=9Eu. Kupujemo proizvode za = > > či=9Aćenje, > > tonike, kreme za dan, kreme za noć, gelove za njegu očiju, = > > losione za > > tijelo, losione protiv celulita, da navedemo samo neke. Voljni smo = > > isprobati > > skoro sve =9Ato nam obećava ljepotu =96 pogotovo ako je to = > > prirodno,' ka=9Ee > > Charlotte. 'Danas se skoro svaki proizvod za njegu ko=9Ee na tr=9Ei=9Atu = > > opisuje kao > > prirodan i čist. To je dana=9Anja marketin=9Aka riječ koja = > > zvrnda i ona > > prodaje. Primjenjena na proizvode za njegu ko=9Ee, to je također i = > > najvi=9Ae > > zloupotrebljavana riječ u engleskom jeziku. U 'prirodnim' = > > proizvodima je > > tisuće kemikalija, mo=9Ee ih biti i do 20 u bilo kojem proizvodu. = > > To mo=9Ee > > biti obman (prevara), ali nije ilegalno. Većina kemikalija koje = > > nalazimo u > > na=9Aoj kozmetici se malo ili uopće ne razlikuje od o=9Atrih, = > > otrovnih kemikalija > > koje se koriste u industriji. Neki sastojci kori=9Ateni u = > > kozmetičkoj > > industriji su stvarno opasni za zdravlje, ali to nam naravno nije = > > rečeno. > > Bilo kako bilo, nema razloga da ostanemo neinformirani. Tko uopće = > > =9Eeli > > oči koje peku, crvenu ko=9Eu, ili alergični dermatitis, a da i = > > ne > > spominjemo povećan rizik od raka?

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Ako = > > patite od > > alergija mo=9Eda ste već bili prisiljeni tra=9Eiti prirodne = > > proizvode zbog > > toga =9Ato su dva vodeća razloga alergija i iritacija u kozmetici = > > mirisi i > > sredstva za konzerviranje. 'Ako patite od suzenja očiju, crvenila = > > ko=9Ee ili > > iritacije, krivac mo=9Ee biti miris dodan u kozmetiku,' upozorava = > > Charlotte. > > Drugi, obično navedeni simptomi uključuju mučninu, = > > promjene > > raspolo=9Eenja, depresiju, letargiju, nemir, iritabilnost, propadanje = > > pamćenja > > i nesposobnost koncentracije =96 i sve to od pranja kose!

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Ako = > > ovo nije > > dovoljno da se upoznate sa svojom lokalnom vegan kozmetičkom > > prodavaonicom, mo=9Eda će činjenica da mnoge =9Eivotinje = > > okrutno pate > > svake godine u ime snage ljepote, učiniti da ne zanemarujete =9Ato = > > ide u > > va=9Ae =9Aampone i balzame. Na primjer, keratin koji dolazi iz vune ili = > > perja je > > upotrebljen u balzamima kao i kolagen iz =9Eivotinjskih vezivnih = > > tkiva.

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KOSA BEZ OKRUTNOSTI

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Bez = > > da > > zvučimo kao sve voleći hipi na improviziranoj uličnoj = > > govornici, > > kako njegovati svoju kosu bez da ozlijedite bilo koju =9Eivotinju. Pa, = > > postoji > > vi=9Ae pravaca. Najva=9Enije je naći kompaniju s reputacijom koje = > > su popisali > > British Union for Abolition of Vivisection (BUAV) i Vegan Society. = > >

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> lang=3DHR>Jedna takva > > kompanija je Meadowsweet, u Suffolku. Njen glasnogovornik ka=9Ee: = > > =93Pred vi=9Ae od > > 15 godina osjetili smo da postoji pozitivna potreba za visoko = > > kvalitetnim nizom > > proizvoda za njegu kose, tijela i ko=9Ee koji upotrebljavaju prirodan = > > organski > > tip sastojaka, umjesto onih dobijenih od =9Eivotinja. Također smo = > > osjetili > > da ti produkti moraju biti novčano dostupni svima i, najva=9Enije, = > > ne smiju > > biti testirani na =9Eivotinjama.=94

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VRHUNSKA KVALITETA

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Ne = > > dajte se zavarati > > mi=9Aljenjem da će zbog toga =9Ato raste va=9Aa savjest, proizvodi = > > koje > > ćete upotrebljavati gubiti na kvaliteti. Postoji mnogo dobro = > > poznatih > > vrsta proizvoda na tr=9Ei=9Atu uključujući Crabtree & = > > Evelyn i Aveda. > > Provjerite na internet stranici Dru=9Atva vegana (Vegan Society = > > website) > style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 opse=9Eni popis kompanija koje = > > rade s > > produktima koje nisu neprijateljske prema =9Eivotinjama (animal friendly > > products). Čak ne morate prestati ugađati samima = > > sebi.

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> lang=3DHR>Saloni i > > proizvodi (za njegu kose) Daniela Fielda po=9Atuju veganske principe = > > (vegan > > friendly) =93Ovo je kompanija za ljubitelje =9Eivotinja=94, ka=9Ee = > > Daniel Field, =93u > > mojim proizvodima čak nema ni meda. Osjećam da vodim vrlo = > > korektan i > > po=9Aten posao, s vrlo velikom poslovnom satisfakcijom. Sva na=9Aa = > > bojila nisu > style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 =9Atetna jer ne sadr=9Ee nikakve = > > kemikalije i > > po=9Ato imamo svoj laboratorij koji se zove Organsko mineralni = > > istra=9Eivački > > institut (Organics Mineral Research Institute) mo=9Eemo garantirati da = > > su svi > > na=9Ai sastojci ovjereni kao ne testirani na =9Eivotinjama. Ljudi =9Eele = > > moje > > proizvode jer ne smrde na kemikalije a to je tako zato =9Ato ni ne = > > sadr=9Ee bilo > > kakve, i zato je kosa savr=9Aeno sigurna.=94

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SASTOJCI DOBIJENI OD =8EIVOTINJA, = > >

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A OBIČNO KORI=8ATENI U = > > KOZMETIČKIM > > PROIZVODIMA

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LOJ I SVINJSKA MAST = > > (=9Eivotinjske masti) =96 > > mogu se naći u sapunima i u kremama

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KOLAGEN =96 iz =9Eivotinjskih = > > vezivnih tkiva; > > koristi se u vla=9Enim kremama i balzamima za kosu

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HITIN =96 iz morskih rakova i = > > rakovih > > lju=9Atura; koristi se kao zgu=9Anjivač u =9Aamponima, balzamima i = > > za njegu ko=9Ee

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ELASTIN =96 je =9Eivotinjski = > > protein ; koristi > > se u vla=9Enim kremama

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MASNE KISELINE (ponekada iz = > > =9Eivotinjske > > masti) =96 mogu se naći u dezodoransima, podlozi krema, ru=9Eevima = > > za usne i > > pjenu=9Aavim kupkama

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GLICERIN > style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">=A0 > > (bazirana =9Eivotinjska ili biljna mast) =96 upotrebljava se kao = > > sredstvo za > > ubla=9Eavanje (omek=9Aavanje ko=9Ee)

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KERATIN =96 često dobiven iz = > > vune ili > > perja; upotrebljava se u balzamima za kosu i nokte

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LANOLIN =96 upotrebljava se u = > > ru=9Eevima za usne > > i losionima

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MO=8AUS, CIBET I KASTOREUM =96 = > > hormoni dobiveni > > iz analnih i seksualnih =9Elijezda =9Eivih =9Eivotinja (posebno = > > uzgajanih jelena, > > cibetnih mačaka u kavezu i zatočenih dabrova); koriste ih > > visokotr=9Ei=9Ani proizvođači parfema koji =9Eele da se njihov = > > miris (trag) > > dugo zadr=9Ei na ko=9Ei

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SVILA =96 upotrebljava se u = > > sjenilima za > > oči, vla=9Enim kremama i pjenama za oblikovanje

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> lang=3DHR>SQUALINE > lang=3DHR> =96 mo=9Ee biti dobivena iz ulja jetre morskog psa; koristi = > > se u > > rumenilima, kremama i losionima za sunčanje

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STEARINSKA KISELINA (često = > > iz > > =9Eivotinjskih izvora) =96 mo=9Ee se naći u mnogim pre=9Aanim = > > puderima, kremama, > > ru=9Eevima za usne i losionima.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C0A7B0.27504AB0-- > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 3 > > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > > To: "Prava zivotinja" > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: ideja > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:18 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > > > > Ja sam student u zagrebu no to nije bitno. Ovdje svi samo dosta pricaju > > ali kako bi bilo da se stvarno nesto poduzme. Na primjer akcija sirenja > > letaka ispred Mcdonaldsovih restorana koju bi u suglasnosti pokrenule razne > > nevladine organizacije a koje bi se ticale sranja sto ih radi Mcdonalds s > > ciljem da se ljudima pokaze stvarno lice Ronalda Mcdonalda ili pokusaj > > kontaktiranja Mcdonalds hrvatska za uvoðenje vega-burgera u restorane ili > > veæ sto se smisli ili koncerta na trgu èija bi zarada isla za poboljsanje > > uvjeta u zagrebaèkom zoo-u. > > > > Bok Mladene, > > > > Mislim da su ovo dobre, odlicne ideje. Mozda bi najbolje bilo ako si > > u mogucnosti da dodjes na slijedeci sastanak kojeg planiramo za subotu, > > pa mozemo o tome popricati. Ili mozes doci na Cvjetni trg kod ograde crkve > > u petak ili subotu od 11 do 14 (otprilike), tamo su Taric i Tally uz stand > > s peticijom za uvodjenje veg*anskih obroka u javne ustanove, te lecima, > > knjigama, majicama i bedzevima. > > > > Sto se tice McDonalds-a, mi za sada nismo stampali letke protiv > > McDonaldsa, ali moguce je da ima letaka koje je napravio netko drugi. > > Ipak, postoje prevedeni leci i mozemo ih fotokopirati. Vjerujem da bi > > se ovoj akciji prikljucile i druge grupe, npr. Attack i anarhisti. > > Mozemo pokusati i kontaktirati McD za uvodjenje vege-burgera da > > vidimo sto bi rekli ako bi uopce odgovorili na bilo koji nacin, mada sam > > dosta sumnjicav. > > > > Sto se tice koncerta, to je odlicna ideja, o cemu sam vec prije razmisljao. > > Moze biti za zoo, moze i za nesto drugo. Inace, slovacka organizacija > > Sloboda zvierat koja je prije 5 godina brojila 7000 clanova, a danas > > vjerojatno i vise, pocela je upravo na taj nacin, koncertima. Na tim > > koncertima prikazivali su i video snimke klaonica itd, i time su pridobili > > mnogo ljudi. > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > > > Pozdrav, > > Hrvoje > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > From: "Veganska akcija" > > To: > > Subject: ured > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:08:07 +0100 > > Reply-To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > > > > Ured smo pofarbali i sad ga treba jos samo pocistiti. Boja je dinja ili = > > nesto sto jako podsjeca na to, a sva prava zadrzana su kod Stephana = > > (naseg dekoratera). > > > > Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak Masha kojem pripada i Zeleni Mash i = > > preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na neki drugi sastanak tek = > > toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je bilo uzasno... ali = > > mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o cemu pricaju. > > > > Uglavnom, predstavio sam nas rad i nasu grupu, nisu mi se cinili previse = > > zainteresiranim, ali, sve u svemu, sad barem znaju da smo tamo, tko smo = > > i cime se bavimo. Mislim da je to bilo potrebno. > > > > Ako netko ima neke stvari koje mu ne trebaju, a smatra da bi u uredu = > > dobro pasale, ima dozvolu od veganske komisije da to donese. > > > > Pozdrav, > > Domagoj aka XTX > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > > > > > > >
 
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Nakon radova otisao sam na sastanak = > > Masha kojem=20 > > pripada i Zeleni Mash i preporucam svakome od nas da koji put ode na = > > neki drugi=20 > > sastanak tek toliko da vidi koliko su nasi sastanci super. Ovo je = > > bilo=20 > > uzasno... ali mozda je to zato jer ne poznajem te ljude i ne razumijem o = > > cemu=20 > > pricaju.
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> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A7C0.0DD81BC0-- > > > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest > > > drago mi je sto vam se svidjaju moji prijedlozi i najvjerovatnije æu se pojaviti na cvjetnom u subotu od 11-14 ako naðem vremena (moram uèiti) i da se upoznam sa vama i možda aktivno ukljuèim u vaše projekte. jedino bih vas molio da mi pobliže objasnite gdje se toèno nalazite na cvjetnom trgu jer ne poznam taj dio zagreba( kao i zagreb opcenito) bas najbolje. > sto se kocerta tice ja sam na umu vise imao neku mjesavinu punk ili rock koncerta no mislim da je vasa ideja jos bolja jer ionako vecina ljudi slusa komercijalnu estradnu glazbu pa ce mozda pojava gorana karana i slicnih vise pomoci zivotinjama ili nekom slicnom nego na primjer fakof bolan. nadam se da se cujemo > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > End of Prava-zivotinja Digest kako netko ne bi ovamo nesto krivo pomislio ja sam zadrti protivnik Mcdonaldsa i slicnih kompanija jer imam anarhističke poglede na svijet i ljude no drzim da treba biti realista-idealista što bi u Mcdonldsovom slucaju znacilo da ako veę ne možeš obijediti zlo uvuci mu se u krv pa odatle djeluj na njegove stanice.(razumijete sta hocu reci) no ipak bih najsretniji bio kad bi svi mcdonaldsovi restorani izgorjeli. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 17:08:41 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:08:41 +0100 Subject: Prava-zivotinja digest, Vol 1 #219 - 7 msgs References: <20010308164300.18183.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <004601c0a7f2$6d73be40$05a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Mladene posto su tvoje poruke koje stizu dugacke nekoliko kilometara ja sam si uzela slobodu da te skinem sa digesta pa ces od sada dobivati svaki mail posebno a ne sve u jednom mailu dnevno. Nadam se da je to ok sto se tebe tice, ako nije vraticu sve kako je bilo. Pozdrav Mae www.djurensratt.org www.greenpeace.se www.oceanfutures.org www.majks.com/achakpage From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 16:58:43 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Sloser) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:58:43 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <00c401c0a7a9$a78bea10$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <3AA78994.EAA979EF@pliva.hr> <000d01c0a7e0$63d6ac60$3c82bfd5@xx> Message-ID: <008a01c0a7f1$6b7a2da0$456d5bd4@i3o2h9> > > Ideje su super! > > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > Meni se isto cini da bi u krajnjem slucaju bilo jako upitno jesu li ti > 'vege' proizvodi stvarno veganski ili vegetarijanski, jer ipak je rijec o > zlocincima i prevarantima. S ovim se i ja slazem. Kakva suradnja s Mcdonaldsom, jeste vi normalni. To je kao da napravimo peticiju za uvodjenje vege obroka u konc. logore i da oni to odobre i time je nas dio borbe protiv logora gotov. Isto tako mislim da bi takav potez u najmanju ruku bio licemjeran od strane nas koji pljujemo (s razlogom) po Mc-u vec godinama. Ja sam bio protiv Mc-a i prije osvjestenja (dok sam jos jeo ......) i bit cu makar oni na meniu imali samo 100% vegan proizvode koje bi djelili besplatno po ulici, jer nije njima za vjerovati. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 17:17:03 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Sloser) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:17:03 +0100 Subject: Fw: NATIONAL FRIENDS WEEK Message-ID: <009e01c0a7f3$bb0607c0$456d5bd4@i3o2h9> > Apologies to those that have rec'd this before ....... guess that means your > a good friend to plenty...... > > --------------- > One day, when I was a freshman in high school, I saw a kid from my class was > walking home from school. His name was Kyle. It looked like he was carrying > all of his books. I thought to myself, > "Why would anyone bring home all his books on a Friday? He must really be a > nerd." I had quite a weekend planned (parties and a football game with my > friends tomorrow afternoon), so I shrugged my shoulders and went on. > > As I was walking, I saw a a bunch of kids running toward him. They ran at > him, knocking all his books out of his arms and tripping him so he landed > in the dirt. His glasses went flying, and I saw them land in the grass, > about ten feet away from him. He looked up and I saw this terrible sadness > in his eyes. My heart went out to him. So, I jogged over to him and as he > crawled around looking for his glasses, and I saw a tear in his eye. > > As I handed him his glasses, I said, "Those guys are jerks. They really > should get lives." He looked at me and said, "Hey thanks!" There was a big > smile on his face. It was one of those smiles that showed real gratitude. > I helped him pick up his books, and asked him where he lived. As it turned > out, he lived near me, so I asked him why I had never seen him before. > He said he had gone to private school before now. I would have never hung > out with a private school kid before. We talked all the way home, and I > carried his books. He turned out to be a pretty cool kid. I asked him if he > wanted to play football on Saturday with me and my friends. He said yes. > > We hung all weekend and the more I got to know Kyle, the more I liked him, > my friends thought the same of him. Monday morning came, and there was Kyle > with the huge stack of books again. I stopped him and said, "Boy, you are > gonna really build some serious muscles with this pile of books everyday!" > He just laughed and handed me half the books. > > Over the next four years, Kyle and I became best friends. When we were > seniors, we began to think about college. Kyle decided on Georgetown, and I > was going to Duke. I knew that we would always be friends, that the miles > would never be a problem. He was going to be a doctor, and I was going for > business on a football scholarship. Kyle was valedictorian of our class. I > teased him all the time about being a nerd. He had to prepare a speech for > graduation. I was so glad it wasn't me having to get up there and speak. > > Graduation day, I saw Kyle. He looked great. He was one of those guys that > really found himself during high school. He filled out and actually looked > good in glasses. He had more dates than I had and all the girls loved him. > Boy, sometimes I was jealous. Today was one of those days. I could see that > he was nervous about his speech. So, I smacked him on the back and said, > "Hey, big guy, you'll be great!" He looked at me with one of those looks > (the really grateful one) and smiled. "Thanks," he said. As he started his > speech, he cleared his throat, and began. > > "Graduation is a time to thank those who helped you make it through those > tough years. Your parents, your teachers, your siblings, maybe a > coach...but mostly your friends. I am here to tell all of you that being a > friend to someone is the best gift you can give them. I am going to tell you > a story." > > I just looked at my friend with disbelief as he told the story of the first > day we met. He had planned to kill himself over the weekend. He talked of > how he had cleaned out his locker so his Mom wouldn't have to do it later > and was carrying his stuff home. He looked hard at me and gave me a little > smile. "Thankfully, I was saved. My friend saved me." I heard the gasp go > through the crowd as this handsome, popular boy told us all about his > weakest moment. I saw his mom and dad looking at me and smiling that same > grateful smile. Not until that moment did I realise it's depth. > > Never underestimate the power of your actions. With one small gesture you > can change a person's life. > For better or for worse. Through the course of our lives we all impact one > another in some way. Look for goodness in others. > > You now have two choices, you can: > 1) Pass this on to your friends, or > 2) Delete it and act like it didn't touch your heart. > > As you can see, I took choice number 1. > "Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble > remembering how to fly." > It's National Friendship Week. Show your friends how much you care. Send > this to everyone you consider a FRIEND, one who sent it to you. > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 18:59:36 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 10:59:36 -0800 Subject: Prava-zivotinja digest, Vol 1 #219 - 7 msgs Message-ID: <20010308185936.26120.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, " Mae" wrote: > > Mladene > posto su tvoje poruke koje stizu dugacke nekoliko kilometara ja sam si uzela slobodu da te skinem sa digesta pa ces od sada dobivati svaki mail posebno a ne sve u jednom mailu dnevno. Nadam se da je to ok sto se tebe tice, ako nije vraticu sve kako je bilo. > Pozdrav > Kako god ti kazes. nemam nista protiv. pozdrav i tebi > Mae > www.djurensratt.org > www.greenpeace.se > www.oceanfutures.org > www.majks.com/achakpage > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 20:13:58 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:13:58 +0000 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <00c401c0a7a9$a78bea10$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <3AA78994.EAA979EF@pliva.hr> <000d01c0a7e0$63d6ac60$3c82bfd5@xx> <008a01c0a7f1$6b7a2da0$456d5bd4@i3o2h9> Message-ID: <3AA7E803.42EBDFDD@globalnet.hr> Sloser wrote: > > > Ideje su super! > > > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > > > Meni se isto cini da bi u krajnjem slucaju bilo jako upitno jesu li ti > > 'vege' proizvodi stvarno veganski ili vegetarijanski, jer ipak je rijec o > > zlocincima i prevarantima. > > S ovim se i ja slazem. Kakva suradnja s Mcdonaldsom, I ja se slazem, no chance. Zar bi ih sa novcem od kupljenih vegburgera pomagali da i dalje rade sve ono sto rade? A ljudi koji su dijelili letke protiv njih, otfurani su u stanicu da ih policajci samaraju pred sefom McD-a i ispituju "ko vas je poslao?", zar nije tako bilo? To bi bilo puno gore od slucaja sa Improm-ovom vege salamom (ili pastetom?). smrt fasizmu, sloboda zivotinjskom narodu! Ivan From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 19:07:46 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 11:07:46 -0800 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi Message-ID: <20010308190746.24443.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, "Sloser" wrote: > > > > Ideje su super! > > > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > > > Meni se isto cini da bi u krajnjem slucaju bilo jako upitno jesu li ti > > 'vege' proizvodi stvarno veganski ili vegetarijanski, jer ipak je rijec o > > zlocincima i prevarantima. > > S ovim se i ja slazem. Kakva suradnja s Mcdonaldsom, jeste vi normalni. To > je kao da napravimo peticiju za uvodjenje vege obroka u konc. logore i da > oni to odobre i time je nas dio borbe protiv logora gotov. Isto tako mislim > da bi takav potez u najmanju ruku bio licemjeran od strane nas koji pljujemo > (s razlogom) po Mc-u vec godinama. Ja sam bio protiv Mc-a i prije > osvjestenja (dok sam jos jeo ......) i bit cu makar oni na meniu imali samo > 100% vegan proizvode koje bi djelili besplatno po ulici, jer nije njima za > vjerovati. > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja Drago mi je sto se svima svidjela ideja o pokretanju dobrotvornog koncerta i akcije sirenja letaka anti-mcdonalds no sad bi bilo najbolje kad bi se svi stvarno potrudili i usuglasili sa brojnim nevladinim udrugama te stvarno nesto napravili jer zelja i zajednicki rad jaci su od svake prepreke(uostalom jedna od glavnih doktrina anarhistički uspješnog društva je mešusobni rad i pomaganje). Usput da ti nisi mozda Sloser iz Slav Broda. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 19:28:34 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Sloser) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:28:34 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <20010308190746.24443.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <002001c0a806$271dabe0$0b6d5bd4@i3o2h9> Usput da ti nisi mozda Sloser iz Slav Broda. > > Da ja sam Sloser iz Slav. Broda; i sad sam tek skuzio po tvojoj adresi da si i ti iz Broda. Dal' se mi poznamo? Do sad nisam znao da u Brodu ima anarcho-vegana (ako izuzmemo one koji se furaju da su ovo ili ono). Ovakve stvari dokazuju da internet ne razdvaja ljude jedne od drugih, vec obrnuto. > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 21:20:59 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 8 Mar 2001 13:20:59 -0800 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi Message-ID: <20010308212059.27478.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 08 March 2001, "Sloser" wrote: > > Usput da ti nisi mozda Sloser iz Slav Broda. > > > > > > Da ja sam Sloser iz Slav. Broda; i sad sam tek skuzio po tvojoj adresi da si > i ti iz Broda. Dal' se mi poznamo? Do sad nisam znao da u Brodu ima > anarcho-vegana (ako izuzmemo one koji se furaju da su ovo ili ono). > > Ovakve stvari dokazuju da internet ne razdvaja ljude jedne od drugih, vec > obrnuto. > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja Ma znas ti mene.zovem se Mladen i ja sam ti onaj zvaljavi panker iz broda i koji se druzi sa onim visokim momkom Damirom i studiram sa Denisom Treskanicom. Uvijek mi se činilo da ti bas nemas dobro misljenje o meni no ja ne mislim nista lose o tebi. Gdje god odem na koncert svi/sve znaju - pogodi koga. Sto se vegana tice to sam odlucio tek pred nekoliko mjeseci i nisam cisti 100% vegan ali trudim se.Eto jako mi je drago da smo razgovarali i nadam se da se opet uskoro cujemo. Pozdrav Mladen moj osobni e-mail na koji mi mozes pisati je katule_sb@altavista.com Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 01:08:15 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (James Bond) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pro=E8itajte...?= Message-ID: <2615564.984100095779.JavaMail.imail@ringo.excite.com> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,446504,00.html _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 12:54:22 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:54:22 +0100 Subject: ideja References: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> <00c501c0a7a9$ac6f70b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <003901c0a7bf$87ac9300$1482bfd5@xx> Message-ID: <000201c0a861$8a2f65b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. Zapravo mislim da se radi o Borisu Leineru, vidjao sam ga u Makronovi i Bijelom valu. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 13:03:29 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:03:29 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <00c401c0a7a9$a78bea10$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <3AA78994.EAA979EF@pliva.hr> Message-ID: <000301c0a861$8cc3a520$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Postoji Lush na pocetku Petrinjske (kod kina). Takodjer se takve stvari mogu naci u prodavaonicama DM-a (na primjer talijanski Ricette del Erborista). Inace, nedavno sam u obliznjoj samoposluzi slucajno pronasao sampon "Freeman Botanicals, Natural Health Care". Lako ga je prepoznati po jabukama na bocici. Nema zivotinjskih sastojaka i nije testiran na zivotinjama. Mozda me netko moze nadopuniti. Pozdrav, Hrvoje > Hvala na clanku. To je sve krasno, ali to su sve americki i engleski > proizvodaci. > Ima li u Zagrebu za preporuciti prodavaonica gdje se mogu naci veganski > proizvodi ili moramo ici u Ameriku? > Ideje su super! > Ja sam za ne ulazenje u posao s McDonaldsom, nista ja njima ne vjerujem. > > Vidimo se na Cvjetnom! > Pozdrav svim ljubiteljima zivota > Stela > > Hrvoje Nezic wrote: > > > Ovo je prevedeni clanak kojeg je poslalaSandra iz Rijeke. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 13:08:11 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:08:11 +0100 Subject: Fw: *EnglandGal's Book Pick* 42 Ways To Help Animals In Laboratories Message-ID: <000401c0a861$8e84dd20$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Ovo je informacija o knjizici / brosuri koju inace mozete dobiti besplatno iz Amerike (pogledajte slijedecu poruku), kao sto sam je dobio ja. Pozdrav, Hrvoje *ENGLANDGAL'S BOOK PICK* === ==== ======= =======__________ FROM ANIMAL RIGHTS ONLINE TITLE: 42 Ways To Help Animals In Laboratories AUTHOR: The Humane Society of the United States PUBLISHER: The Humane Society of the United States 2100 L Street, NW, Washington, DC 20037 Tel: 301-258-3041 Website: http://www.hsus.org/programs/research/pubs.html Email: Cheryl Ross - cross@hsus.org ISBN #: None RETAIL PRICE: $3.00 U.S.A plus $1.50 shipping & handling ABOUT THE BOOK: Are you disturbed by the suffering of animals in laboratories? Are you troubled when you learn of animals being used in trauma studies or for testing household products, or when you hear about the collection and killing of animals for school dissection* exercises? If you are reading this booklet, you may already be concerned about these issues. Or perhaps you are unfamiliar with the issue of animal use in laboratories and schools and just want to find out more. In either case, we think you will find this booklet useful and informative. We also hope it motivates you to act. The last two or three decades have witnessed some positive developments on behalf of animals used in research, testing, and education. Perhaps most notable is the substantial decline of animal use, especially in the testing of cosmetic, personal-care, and household products. Today we can choose from hundreds of companies that use no animal ingredients and don't conduct animal tests. In the field of education, seven U.S. states have recently passed laws and many local school boards have adopted policies that allow students to choose humane alternatives to classroom animal dissections or invasive live-animal exercises. Other improvements have been less visible to the public but no less profound. The field of alternatives has expanded significantly, and there has been widespread adoption of the 3Rs, a set of humane alternative principles developed by concerned scientists. The 3Rs are replacement, reduction, and refinement. Replacement of testing techniques that use live animals includes developing alternatives such as tissue cultures, computer simulations, physical and chemical techniques, mathematical models, and human studies. Reduction in the number of animals used in laboratories includes improving study designs and statistical tests, using groups of students to examine each animal studied in classrooms, and modifying tests (such as the LD50) to use fewer animals. Refinement of animal study techniques to cause less pain and distress includes developing noninvasive techniques such as ultrasound, magnetic resonance imaging, and behavioral observations; using less-sentient organisms (insects, for example, in place of mammals); and improving the use of anesthetics and analgesics. People who question the use of laboratory animals continue to play a major role in these advances. Despite these positive changes, some twenty-million animals in the United States -- and sixty to seventy-million worldwide -- are still used in laboratories every year. And the specter of increased animal use in the near future has been raised by new developments in genetic engineering, such as the production of transgenic and cloned animals. Notwithstanding the Animal Welfare Act (federal legislation devised in part to provide minimum standards for the welfare of animals used in laboratories), life for animals in laboratories is usually neither natural nor ideal, and multitudes of them endure conditions ranging from inadequate to unbearable. Clearly there still is much to be done. Henry Spira: A Model Activist Arguably the most successful animal activist of the past twenty-five years was the late Henry Spira. He organized a campaign in 1975 against inhumane and scientifically questionable feline mutilation experiments at the American Museum of Natural History, where cats were subjected to the destruction of their sense of smell, the severance of nerves to their penises, and the removal of parts of their brains. The campaign led the museum to shut down the research. Spira followed this with a successful campaign to repeal New York's Hatch-Metcalf Act, which had mandated the release of pound dogs and cats to research facilities (pound seizure, see Action 36). Then, in 1980, he launched his campaign against animal testing and, specifically, the Draize Eye-Irritancy Test used on rabbits' eyes for testing cosmetics. As a result of this campaign, the cosmetics industry established the Center for Alternatives to Animal Testing at Johns Hopkins University and has spent millions of dollars on the search for alternatives. Today alternatives are accepted and supported widely by toxicologists and regulators, in large part because of Spira's campaign. Although much of his activist career was devoted to animals used in research, Spira gave considerable attention to farm animals as well. He played a key role in getting the U.S. Department of Agriculture to eliminate face-branding of cattle and to establish an ad hoc task force on farm animal welfare. Spira's negotiations with McDonald's led the company to appoint a permanent animal welfare compliance officer whose job is to ensure that the company's suppliers advance farm animal welfare. Spira did not have millions of dollars for his work. Instead, he used relatively simple and inexpensive strategies to achieve his success. Four main principles explain why and how Spira's work was so successful. First, Spira got his opponents to pay serious attention to him. In his early years as an animal activist, before he developed the reputation and credibility with governments and corporations that he had later in life, Spira sought to identify specific issues that he could target effectively. He knew that the feline mutilation experiments, pound seizure bill, and Draize test would inspire public concern. He also knew that researchers and officials would find these practices difficult to defend. Once Spira had identified his targets, he gathered as much information as he could about the practices before doing anything. This meant using the Freedom of Information Act (see Action 15) to obtain copies of the grant proposals on the feline mutilation experiments and government films and reports on how to conduct the Draize test. Second, Spira increased pressure on his targets if they did not respond. In his Draize campaign, Spira selected Revlon as a target because its headquarters were in New York City, where he lived, and because it was one of the leaders in the cosmetics industry. When Revlon refused to take any concrete action, Spira took out advertisements in the New York Times ("How many rabbits does Revlon blind for beauty's sake?"), picketed Revlon's headquarters, asked questions from the audience when Revlon's chief executive officer gave public speeches, and bought stock in the company so that he could attend the annual stockholders' meetings and voice his views. Third, he compelled his targets to begin dialogues and keep negotiating. That was the purpose of Spira's street protests and hardball tactics. He never viewed his opponents as evil or morally corrupt. He focused on the issues and opened opportunities for change to those whose practices he criticized. When the time came to sit down to negotiate, Spira sought win-win opportunities and did not push for unreasonable goals. Fourth, when the targeted institutions finally took action, he praised them for their innovations and did not trumpet his victory and their defeat. By consistently adhering to these principles, Spira made himself both feared and trusted as an opponent. People dreaded becoming a target of his attention, but they knew that if they agreed on a change, he would keep his side of the bargain. Spira's determined, pragmatic, and principled activism helped reduce the suffering of animals in laboratories. There are other examples of successful activism, but the strategies employed by Henry Spira will work more often than not. His strategies are worth emulating as we continue to work on behalf of animals used in research, testing, and education. How This Booklet Can Help You As Henry Spira's example shows, there are many ways to make a difference for animals in laboratories. This booklet presents a range of actions you can take, either individually or as part of a group, whether you have considerable resources or few, a lot of time or very little. Personal views about animal experimentation vary. Most people, including most scientists, look forward to the day when harmful animal use is eliminated altogether. However, there is considerable disagreement about whether to pursue this goal by demanding immediate abolition or by advocating progressive reforms. Wherever you stand, it is important to keep in mind that you can help reduce the suffering of animals without compromising medical or scientific progress, or your personal ethics. The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is actively working on many fronts to help animals used in laboratories. For up-to-date information about HSUS programs and campaigns on behalf of animals in laboratories, visit our Web site at www.hsus.org/programs/research. As long as animals continue to be used in ways that harm them, our first priority is to eliminate the pain and distress they endure; our Pain and Distress campaign is designed to achieve this goal. We work to make institutions conducting animal research more accountable for their activities; encourage the adoption of alternatives in all avenues of laboratory animal use; target particularly abusive situations; strive to strengthen laws designed to protect animals used in laboratories; help students and educators adopt humane alternatives by lending out educational materials; and promote the enactment of laws supporting student choice in dissection and other classroom exercises that may harm animals. Finally, through publications such as this booklet, we strive to educate the public about these issues and about how to effect positive change. There are many ways you can tackle the complex issues involved in animal experimentation. You can identify particularly problematic situations and apply pressure to have them remedied. You can lobby for the introduction of new legislation or the strengthening of existing laws and regulations pertaining to animals in laboratories. You can establish a dialogue with scientists to help you understand their feelings and concerns, and vice versa. You can educate the public and publicize the issue via speeches, appearances on radio and television, written articles and letters to the editor. And you can strengthen your actions by uniting with others who share your vision. What follows are some ideas for how you can be an effective force for change for animals in laboratories. We encourage you to tailor the suggestions in this booklet to meet your particular style and situation. Please share any suggestions you might have for future editions of this booklet by contacting The HSUS's Animal Research Issues staff (301-258-3041; e-mail: ari@hsus.org). NOTE: This book is not intended to provide legal advice. You should be aware that some of the activities advocated in this book may result in adverse legal consequences when undertaken without knowledge of applicable laws. Therefore, The HSUS strongly recommends that all activists familiarize themselves with laws that may relate to their activities and consult an attorney before undertaking any activity that may be objected to by any individual or company or that may otherwise be regulated. «¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤» Susan Roghair - EnglandGal@aol.com Animal Rights Online P O Box 7053 Tampa, Fl 33673-7053 http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1395/ -=Animal Rights Online=- & Advisory Board Member, Animal Rights Network Inc., not-for-profit publisher of The Animals' Agenda Magazine http://www.animalsagenda.org/ The Animals' Agenda Magazine: WebEdition «¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤»§«¤»„«¤» From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 8 13:13:34 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:13:34 +0100 Subject: 42 nacina ... Message-ID: <000501c0a861$915c4010$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Ako zelite dobiti knjigu "42 nacina kako pomoci zivotinjama u laboratorijima" posaljite svoje ime i adresu na cross@hsus.org i zatrazite je. Hrvoje > > "Are you disturbed by the suffering of animals in laboratories? Are you > troubled when you learn of animals being used in trauma studies or for testing > of household products? Are you troubled when you hear about the collection and > killings of animals for school dissection exercises?" If you answered yes to > any of these questions then The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) would > like to give you a FREE copy (yes I said FREE copy) of our "42 Ways to help > animals in laboratories" booklet. > > > > The "42 Ways..." booklet provides suggestions on getting active, simple acts > of kindess, educating yourself, getting the word out, educating the educators, > and taking direct action. The booklet also contains a wealth of information > about readings, on-line sources, and other tools you'll need to be a positive > advocate for animals. > > > > So what are you waiting for? Hurry and email cross@hsus.org your name and > address and we'll send you a free copy before they're all gone. One booklet per > customer please. If additional copies are needed please contact me. > > > > Thanks....and don't miss out! > > > > Sincerely, > > Cheryl > > > > > > Cheryl Ross > > Research Assistant > > Animal Research Issues > > The Humane Society of the United States > > phone: + 301-258-3042 > > fax: + 301-258-7760 > > www.hsus.org/programs/research > > > > > > > > > > --- > > To post a message to the list, send to: > > hsi-animalia@lists.hsus.org > > > > To subscribe to AnimaliA from another e-mail address, send a message to > subscribe-hsi-animalia@lists.hsus.org > > Leave the subject line and body of the message blank. > > > > Disclaimer: > > Humane Society International (HSI) has established AnimaliA (Animal > information Alliance) to provide organizations and interested individuals in > developing countries a forum for questions and answers relating to direct animal > protection efforts. The solutions and viewpoints expressed here are not > necessarily those of HSI or its parent organization,The HSUS, but of the > individuals by whom they were posted. If you have any comments or suggestions, > please contact us at hsi@hsihsus.org. > > To learn more about our programs, please visit: > > http://www.hsus.org > > http://www.nahee.org (Educational Programs) > > http://www.AnimalSheltering.org (Animal Care, Control, and Protection) > > http://www.animalchannel.net From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 07:30:16 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:30:16 +0100 Subject: FLOTILLA CONFRONTS PLUTONIUM SHIPMENT IN TASMAN SEA Message-ID: <00a301c0a86a$cb94cbe0$18a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> On 6 March, a flotilla of seven ships in the Tasman Sea confronted the Pacific Pintail and Pacific Teal, vessels carrying a shipment of weapons-usable plutonium fuel, or MOX (mixed oxide), bound for western Japan. The flotilla radioed the plutonium vessels in English, French and Japanese. The plutonium vessels changed course to evade the flotilla. You can read the latest news at: http://www.greenpeace.org/~nuclear/transport/mox00/ Mae www.djurensratt.org www.greenpeace.se www.oceanfutures.org www.majks.com/achakpage From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 07:32:41 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:32:41 +0100 Subject: HELP CLEANUP BAYER Message-ID: <00ab01c0a86b$21389fe0$18a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> The giant German chemical company Bayer is best known for its Aspirin headache remedy. But double standards in Germany and Brazil are now giving the company an environmental headache. Earlier this year, a Greenpeace investigation showed that Bayer is contaminating the environment in Brazil with toxic persistent pollutants such as PCBs and heavy metals such as mercury. Please help us clean up Bayer by sending a letter to the CEO of Bayer Brazil today from: http://cybercentre.greenpeace.org/t/s/ams/e?a=bayer_toxics&s=s01 Mae www.djurensratt.org www.greenpeace.se www.oceanfutures.org www.majks.com/achakpage From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 07:55:37 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Tamara Frkac) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:55:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi In-Reply-To: <000301c0a861$8cc3a520$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Message-ID: <20010309075537.10893.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Svi Freemanovi proizvodi nisu testirani na zivotinjama i ne sadrze zivotinjske sastojke, a izuzetno su kvalitetni i jeftini (velika boca regeneratora košta 15 kuna)...ja ih osobno jako volim, što zbog navedenog, što zbog toga što mirišu za pojest,a i zbog loga na flašicama na kojima piše "Freeman cares" i "Beauty is inside" ...za cure...šminka firme "Frais monde" i "Nee" nije testirana na zivotinjama,takoder i "Avon", "Oriflame" i "Amway" ne testiraju na zivotinjama i ne koriste zivotinjske sastojke. ===== "Animals are my friends....and I don't eat my friends" G.B.SHAW GO VEGETARIAN! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 08:19:36 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:19:36 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <20010309075537.10893.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00f101c0a871$ae6e2a00$18a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Tamara ovo o Freemanu proizvodima zvuci jako dobro, no osim sto nisu testirani na zivotinjama zanima me i kakva im je ekoloska pozadina; ponekad se u proizvodnji kozmetike koriste preparati koji nisu testirani na zivotinjama sada, nego su testovi obavljeni ranije a ucinci poznati pa ih stoga nije potrebno vise testirati, no to ne iskljucuje njihovu stetnost na okolis, na primjer. Da li su sastojci kemijskog ili prirodnog porijekla? Meni osobno je i to vazno. O Avonu i Oriflame smo vec ranije diskutirali, oni ne testiraju na zivotinjama ali takodjer nisu mogli garantirati da drugi to ne cine za njih (distributeri sirovina na primjer). > > > Svi Freemanovi proizvodi nisu testirani na zivotinjama > i ne sadrze zivotinjske sastojke, a izuzetno su > kvalitetni i jeftini (velika boca regeneratora kosta > 15 kuna)...ja ih osobno jako volim, sto zbog > navedenog, sto zbog toga sto mirisu za pojest,a i zbog > loga na flasicama na kojima pise "Freeman cares" i > "Beauty is inside" > ...za cure...sminka firme "Frais monde" i "Nee" nije > testirana na zivotinjama,takoder i "Avon", "Oriflame" > i "Amway" ne testiraju na zivotinjama i ne koriste > zivotinjske sastojke. > > ===== > "Animals are my friends....and I don't eat my friends" G.B.SHAW > > GO VEGETARIAN! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 10:34:23 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Sandra Ozanic) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:34:23 +0100 Subject: ideja References: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> <00c501c0a7a9$ac6f70b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <003901c0a7bf$87ac9300$1482bfd5@xx> <000201c0a861$8a2f65b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Message-ID: <005a01c0a884$e3fe09c0$a7421dc3@boba> Tu vam je jos Emilija Kokic, Cetinski (ali ne Toni vec brat. ali tko zna mozda bi dosao i Toni), Blazenka Leib (mozda kao voditelj). Svi su oni vegetarijanci. Ali zasto se ograniciti samo na njih ako bi i neki drugi htjeli. Tko pita ne skita. Kucajte i otvorit ce vam se. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrvoje Nezic" To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: Re: ideja > > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > Zapravo mislim da se radi o Borisu Leineru, vidjao sam ga u Makronovi > i Bijelom valu. > > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 11:06:37 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 9 Mar 2001 03:06:37 -0800 Subject: ideja Message-ID: <20010309110637.11081.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Fri, 09 March 2001, "Sandra Ozanic" wrote: > > Tu vam je jos Emilija Kokic, Cetinski (ali ne Toni vec brat. ali tko zna > mozda bi dosao i Toni), Blazenka Leib (mozda kao voditelj). Svi su oni > vegetarijanci. Ali zasto se ograniciti samo na njih ako bi i neki drugi > htjeli. > > Tko pita ne skita. Kucajte i otvorit ce vam se. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hrvoje Nezic" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: ideja > > > > > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > > > Zapravo mislim da se radi o Borisu Leineru, vidjao sam ga u Makronovi > > i Bijelom valu. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja > > > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja tko kaže da moraju biti vegetarijanci. nemaju vegetarijanci patent na zaštitu životinja. treba pozvati i neke rock grupe kao Pipse ili Psihomodo ili ... i sve glazbenike koji možda i nisu vegetarijanci kako bi se privukao što veęi broj ljudi a time i zaradilo novca za dobrotvorne svrhe. Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 12:28:24 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Dario Adamic) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:28:24 +0100 Subject: lista References: <200011261539.QAA24912@inje.iskon.hr> Message-ID: <002301c0a894$72091d40$db420f97@dario> Taric, sorry, ali ne mogu vise pratit' listu. Stize mi po 15-ak e-mailova na dan, a to je stvarno too much. Drzim vam fige za uspjesan nastavak, ali za sada bih da me skines sa liste. Don't give up! pozdrav svima! adam hamsters@tin.it GOODWILL Records web site, tons of informations, pics and a huge catalog of HC/Punk stuff: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/thissu/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Veganska Akcija" To: "Eko diskusije" ; "Prava zivotinja" ; "Forca" ; "Ex-yu anarhisti/ce" ; "Attack" Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: Fw: Environment. (Doc) > X DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE, SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI! X > > Procitajte tekst o zagrijavanju Zemlje i odnosu vegana prema okolisu. Tekst je napisao Doc, veganski aktivista (vegan je preko 35 godina), a prenosim ga s internacionalne veganske mailing liste. Pitanje zagrijavanja Zemlje tice se svih nas. > > Pozdrav, > Domagoj Pintaric - taric@zamir.net > Veganska Akcija/ Kolektiv Obrana istine > P.P. 18, 40315 Mursko Sredisce, Croatia > http://www.majks.com/vegan > > > ** **** **** **** **** **** *************************************************************************** > Harvey Diamond (pisac): "Ljudi jednostavno nisu pripremljeni za jedenje mesa. > Stavite u kolijevku dijete i uz njega zeca i jabuku. Ako se po?ne igrati s jabukom, > a poku?a pojesti zeca - kupit ?u vam novi auto!" > ** **** **** **** **** **** *************************************************************************** > > ---------- > > From: David A. Weseloh, Ph.D. > > To: VEGAN@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU > > Subject: Environment. (Doc) > > Date: 2000. studeni 19 09:58 > > > > The "E" in VEGAN stands for "environment". Did you know that the earth's > > temperature has increased about a degree over the past century? Most of > > that was in the last 50 years. In the next 100 years estimates vary from > > 2.5 to 10.4 degree increase. Tom Wigley of the National Center for > > Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado says that "The weight of evidence > > is just getting heavier and heavier". David Rind of NASA's Goddard > > Institute for Space Studies studied tree rings, glaciers, and other markers > > from the ancient climate. He has shown that the warming of the 20th century > > "is a magnitude of change that hasn't been seen for thousands of years". > > > > Now for a surprise. The IPCC modeled scenario of future energy use projects > > a warming of 4 to 6 degrees by 2100. That is enough to raise the seas by > > several feet, intensify storms, and melt more polar ice. > > > > Vegans help decrease this potential major problem. Factory animals > > contribute to this so vegans help there. We cause more veggies to be grown > > so that helps to decrease carbon dioxide. We are generally more energy > > conservationists and that helps. We generally drive less by combining trips > > and other conservation techniques. We generally drive vehicles with higher > > gas mileage. There are more that we do but in summary we are just more > > aware then the average person. > > > > What can we do to change this? First, we can continue being vegans. > > Second, we can help others open their eyes to veganism and environmental > > issues. Third, we need to educate our politicians to the problem and help > > them see that it is a major problem and it is REAL. Yes, that includes > > educating Bush. We need the laws throughout the world, concerning > > environmental issues, to be followed. We also need stronger environmental > > laws. We need to educate businesses that energy conservation and pollution > > cleanup is just good business from both public relations and just plan long > > term economical reasons. In other words we need to EDUCATE. > > > > Doc > > Odessa & Midland, Texas, USA > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 12:13:18 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:13:18 +0100 Subject: ideja References: <20010309110637.11081.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <003b01c0a894$dbbe4580$f8ddfea9@VIVA> > tko kaze da moraju biti vegetarijanci. nemaju vegetarijanci patent na zastitu zivotinja. treba pozvati i neke rock grupe kao Pipse ili Psihomodo ili ... i sve glazbenike koji mozda i nisu vegetarijanci kako bi se privukao sto veęi broj ljudi a time i zaradilo novca za dobrotvorne svrhe. Naravno, slazem se da ne moraju biti vegetarijanci, ali morali bi pristati svirati na tom koncertu, po mogucnosti besplatno :) Hrvoje From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 13:16:32 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:16:32 +0100 Subject: lista References: <200011261539.QAA24912@inje.iskon.hr> <002301c0a894$72091d40$db420f97@dario> Message-ID: <001501c0a89b$29798180$33a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Hej Dario Taric vise ne administrira listu (dok si ne sredi kompjuter) nego Hrvoje i ja, pa imam za tebe prijedlog. Ukoliko je problem samo u tome sto dobivas previse majla mozemo te staviti na digest pa ces primati jedan mail dnevno a u njemu sve majlove koji su tog dana poslani. Tako kad imas vremena ides redom i citas ih, kad nemas jednostavno ih bacis. Evo samo prijedlog od mene. No ako ipak zelis napustiti listu onda je to ok. Nije ok ali sta da se radi :-))) Pozdrav Mae Mae www.djurensratt.org www.greenpeace.se www.oceanfutures.org www.majks.com/achakpage From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 16:14:01 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Dario Adamic) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:14:01 +0100 Subject: lista References: <200011261539.QAA24912@inje.iskon.hr> <002301c0a894$72091d40$db420f97@dario> <001501c0a89b$29798180$33a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <000b01c0a8b3$f6405f00$63770f97@dario> Mae, vjeruj mi, volio bih ja to pratiti, ali je preraslo moje dimenzije. Sad radim 2 posla dnevno (+ mailorder iz kuce) tako da ni za spavanje nemam vremena a kamoli za internet. Mozda se jednog dana situacija promijeni, ali sada stvarno nisam u mogucnosti pratiti. Mislim, kad bi se svako ogranicio na jedan mail dnevno, nego ovako dobijem 6-7 mailova od Hrvoja, 4-5 od tebe, pa jos od ljudi koje ne znam... Mislim da bi za pratit' listu trebao biti nezaposlen i sjedit' kod kuce na kompjuteru cijeli dan. Do pred mjesec - dva je bilo OK, ali sad je stvarno previse e-mailova koji se salju na dnevnoj bazi. Meni je stvarno zao, jer mi je pri srcu ta nasa "borba", ali eto ostanimo da ako treba nesto odavde, javite mi se slobodno, a za listu stvarno "sorry". : ( Take care! adam hamsters@tin.it GOODWILL Records web site, tons of informations, pics and a huge catalog of HC/Punk stuff: http://www.angelfire.com/ok/thissu/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: " Mae" To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: Re: lista > Hej Dario > Taric vise ne administrira listu (dok si ne sredi kompjuter) nego Hrvoje i ja, pa imam za tebe prijedlog. Ukoliko je problem samo u tome sto dobivas previse majla mozemo te staviti na digest pa ces primati jedan mail dnevno a u njemu sve majlove koji su tog dana poslani. Tako kad imas vremena ides redom i citas ih, kad nemas jednostavno ih bacis. > > Evo samo prijedlog od mene. No ako ipak zelis napustiti listu onda je to ok. Nije ok ali sta da se radi :-))) > > Pozdrav Mae > > Mae > www.djurensratt.org > www.greenpeace.se > www.oceanfutures.org > www.majks.com/achakpage > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 18:17:20 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:17:20 +0100 Subject: subota 17:00h, Gundiliceva 21a Message-ID: <001401c0a8c5$e697b6e0$4582bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A8CD.8FD90360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Sastanak je sutra, u subotu, od 17:00 sati, u podrumskim prostorijama = ASH u Gundulicevoj 21a. Sutra smo takoder i na Cvjetnom trgu (kao i danas) od nekih 11:00h do = barem 15:00h. Vidimo se! Informacije na 091 5397 222. Domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A8CD.8FD90360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = LJUDI BI BILI=20 VEGETARIJANCI
 
Sastanak je sutra, u subotu, od 17:00 = sati, u=20 podrumskim prostorijama ASH u Gundulicevoj 21a.
Sutra smo takoder i na Cvjetnom = trgu (kao i=20 danas) od nekih 11:00h do barem 15:00h. Vidimo se!
 
Informacije na 091 5397 = 222.
Domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0A8CD.8FD90360-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 18:21:31 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:21:31 +0100 Subject: A dan je tako lijepo poceo... Message-ID: <001501c0a8c5$e72ec6c0$4582bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0A8CE.257F4140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Danas je bio odlican dan! Ujutro nam je stigla donacija od 800 kuna iz = Dubrovnika, s iste adrese s koje nam je neki dan stigao paket s nekoliko = knjizica od kojih je jedna bila 'prirucnik za roditelje vegance' a druga = fanzin Vegan Societya. Nakon toga Tamara je javila da smo dobili i kompjuter za svega 500 kuna, = a vjerojatno i stolove, stolice i ormare.=20 A nakon svega toga, kao sojino vrhnje na vrhu sojinog pudinga :))) Bojan = se spustio u nase prostorije, pohvalio nas rad i entuzijazam i rekao da = mozemo 'vratiti kuhinju u funkciju', drugim rijecima, mozemo vjerojatno = otvoriti restoran. Sto ce ispasti iz toga, vidjet cemo, ali kako sad = stvari stoje ja sam PRESRETAN!!! Dodite sutra, imamo stvarno razloga sastancit... Pozdrav, Domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0A8CE.257F4140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = LJUDI BI BILI=20 VEGETARIJANCI
 
Danas je bio odlican dan! Ujutro nam je = stigla=20 donacija od 800 kuna iz Dubrovnika, s iste adrese s koje nam je neki dan = stigao=20 paket s nekoliko knjizica od kojih je jedna bila 'prirucnik za roditelje = vegance' a druga fanzin Vegan Societya.
 
Nakon toga Tamara je javila da smo = dobili i=20 kompjuter za svega 500 kuna, a vjerojatno i stolove, stolice i ormare.=20
 
A nakon svega toga, kao sojino vrhnje = na vrhu=20 sojinog pudinga :))) Bojan se spustio u nase prostorije, pohvalio nas = rad i=20 entuzijazam i rekao da mozemo 'vratiti kuhinju u funkciju', drugim = rijecima,=20 mozemo vjerojatno otvoriti restoran. Sto ce ispasti iz toga, vidjet = cemo, ali=20 kako sad stvari stoje ja sam PRESRETAN!!!
 
Dodite sutra, imamo stvarno razloga=20 sastancit...
 
Pozdrav,
Domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0A8CE.257F4140-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 21:54:49 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:54:49 +0000 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozmeticki proizvodi References: <20010309075537.10893.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3AA95123.5EAE8EBC@globalnet.hr> Tamara Frkac wrote: > Svi Freemanovi proizvodi nisu testirani na zivotinjama > i ne sadrze zivotinjske sastojke, a izuzetno su > kvalitetni i jeftini (velika boca regeneratora kosta > 15 kuna)...ja ih osobno jako volim, sto zbog > navedenog, sto zbog toga sto mirisu za pojest,a i zbog > loga na flasicama na kojima pise "Freeman cares" i > "Beauty is inside" > ...za cure...sminka firme "Frais monde" i "Nee" nije > testirana na zivotinjama,takoder i "Avon", "Oriflame" > i "Amway" ne testiraju na zivotinjama i ne koriste > zivotinjske sastojke. Ovo je nekoliko novih imena koja prije nismo znali, cini mi se. Pada mi na pamet: ima li netko interesa i vremena da sastavi jednu provjerenu listu sve ne-testirane kozmetike (ukljucujuci i dekorativnu, tj. sminku, dapace!) koja se moze nabaviti kod nas i sire? Naravno, ciljam na casopis NR. Cak ni ne mora biti za ovaj broj koji sada zavrsavamo. To bi bila zgodna i korisna stvar, recimo vecina ljudi koji su vegetarijanci se uopce ne pomisljaju da koriste zivotinje u samponu. Dosta smo toga stavljali na listu, ali evo izgleda da ima jos stvari. A i ovo sto Mae kaze: pokusati provjeriti da li su sve te firme stvarno veganske, ne koriste li mozda testirane sirovine itd. Cure, to bi mogao biti poslic za neku od vas. Korisna je i ova lista stvari koje SE testiraju koju je poslala Mae, sa puno razvikanih imena. Samo sto sam ja pametan pa sam izgubio taj mail, vec ga 15 minuta trazim po folderima. Mae, help! Ivan From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Fri Mar 9 21:55:31 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:55:31 +0000 Subject: ideja References: <20010307235441.6592.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> <00c501c0a7a9$ac6f70b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> <003901c0a7bf$87ac9300$1482bfd5@xx> <000201c0a861$8a2f65b0$f8ddfea9@VIVA> Message-ID: <3AA9514D.9E962B57@globalnet.hr> Hrvoje Nezic wrote: > > > Pitanje je tko bi se od muzicara i pjevac(ic)a odazvao takvom pozivu. > > > Mogu se sjetiti nekih poznatijih za koje bi se moglo pretpostaviti: > > > Srdjan Sacher (da li sam naveo dobro ime? - onaj sto svira u > > > Vjesticama, makrobioticar je), Zdenka Kovacicek, Goran Karan. > > Zapravo mislim da se radi o Borisu Leineru, vidjao sam ga u Makronovi > i Bijelom valu. > Tako je. On je bio bubnjar u Azri i sada u je glavni u Vjesticama. Dugogodisnji makrobioticar, mislim 10 - 15 ili vise g. Glasio za najboljeg bubnjara u bivsoj Jugi. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sat Mar 10 14:18:51 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Sloser) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:18:51 +0100 Subject: A dan je tako lijepo poceo... References: <001501c0a8c5$e72ec6c0$4582bfd5@xx> Message-ID: <008701c0a96d$08cc25a0$c46d5bd4@i3o2h9> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0A975.69D7EC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ajd konacno da je nesto krenulo kako treba. Ja nazalost sad opet radim, = ali prvi put kad dodjem u Zg moram doci do prostora da to vidim. kip going!!!!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Veganska akcija=20 To: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net=20 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: A dan je tako lijepo poceo... DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Danas je bio odlican dan! Ujutro nam je stigla donacija od 800 kuna iz = Dubrovnika, s iste adrese s koje nam je neki dan stigao paket s nekoliko = knjizica od kojih je jedna bila 'prirucnik za roditelje vegance' a druga = fanzin Vegan Societya. Nakon toga Tamara je javila da smo dobili i kompjuter za svega 500 = kuna, a vjerojatno i stolove, stolice i ormare.=20 A nakon svega toga, kao sojino vrhnje na vrhu sojinog pudinga :))) = Bojan se spustio u nase prostorije, pohvalio nas rad i entuzijazam i = rekao da mozemo 'vratiti kuhinju u funkciju', drugim rijecima, mozemo = vjerojatno otvoriti restoran. Sto ce ispasti iz toga, vidjet cemo, ali = kako sad stvari stoje ja sam PRESRETAN!!! Dodite sutra, imamo stvarno razloga sastancit... Pozdrav, Domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0A975.69D7EC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ajd konacno da je nesto krenulo kako = treba. Ja=20 nazalost sad opet radim, ali prvi put kad dodjem u Zg moram doci do = prostora da=20 to vidim.
kip going!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Veganska = akcija=20
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 = 7:21=20 PM
Subject: A dan je tako lijepo=20 poceo...

 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI = LJUDI BI=20 BILI VEGETARIJANCI
 
Danas je bio odlican dan! Ujutro nam = je stigla=20 donacija od 800 kuna iz Dubrovnika, s iste adrese s koje nam je neki = dan=20 stigao paket s nekoliko knjizica od kojih je jedna bila 'prirucnik za=20 roditelje vegance' a druga fanzin Vegan Societya.
 
Nakon toga Tamara je javila da smo = dobili i=20 kompjuter za svega 500 kuna, a vjerojatno i stolove, stolice i ormare. =
 
A nakon svega toga, kao sojino vrhnje = na vrhu=20 sojinog pudinga :))) Bojan se spustio u nase prostorije, pohvalio nas = rad i=20 entuzijazam i rekao da mozemo 'vratiti kuhinju u funkciju', drugim = rijecima,=20 mozemo vjerojatno otvoriti restoran. Sto ce ispasti iz toga, vidjet = cemo, ali=20 kako sad stvari stoje ja sam PRESRETAN!!!
 
Dodite sutra, imamo stvarno razloga=20 sastancit...
 
Pozdrav,
Domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C0A975.69D7EC00-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 11 00:29:17 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:29:17 +0000 Subject: ne propustite! Message-ID: <3AAAC6DB.B8C10A01@globalnet.hr> Upravo sam na III programu radia cuo nesto sasvim nevjerojatno. Razgovor sa izvjesnim Johnom Zerzanom (prezime pisem fonetski jer nemam predstavu kako bi se trebalo pisati...) Svasta sam vec cuo, stotine slicnih clanaka procitao, ali ovo je bila jedna od onih stvari koja te jednom u par godina natjera da padnes iz stolca. Neci reci nista o sadrzaju, samo da je intervju s tim covjekom naslovljen "Anarhofuturizam", iako to zapravo nista ne otkriva. Sve ono cime zelimo da se Nova Renesansa bavi (za nove primatelje liste - casopis koji ovih dana pokusava pokrenuti grupa ljudi okupljena oko 'prava zivotinja'), dakle sve to je bilo sadrzano u tom tekstu, u sasvim suludim idejama tog lika. Imate moju toplu preporuku da veceras (u nedjelju) u 23.30 h upalite radio na 101 mhz (u nekim djelovima zemlje i na drugim frekvencijama) i poslusate drugi i zavrsni dio teksta. Ako bude slabiji od prvog, mozete od mene dobiti prvi u mp3 formatu. Pozdrav, Ivan From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 11 07:20:10 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Hrvoje Nezic) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:20:10 +0100 Subject: Fw: Mad cow Message-ID: <000e01c0a9fb$dead7910$f8ddfea9@VIVA> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AA04.16EDFAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0AA04.16EDFAE0 Content-Type: text/html; name="madcow.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="madcow.htm" How Now Mad Cow?

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Sixteen years after the first infected cow was discovered, the Philips report exposes how the deadly truth was carefully hidden from the public by overcautious officials and political pressure. Kamal Ahmed, Anthony Barnett and Stuart Millar report. Click here to read the full text.
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Richard Lacey is Professor of Clinical Microbiology at Chapel Allerton Hospital, Leeds.

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microbiology from the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Bristol.

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 As well as publishing over 200 papers in scientific and medical journals, Professor Lacey has lectured extensively overseas and broadcast frequently on radio and television. His work has won him a number of prizes, including the Evian Health Prize for Medicine and the Caroline Walker Award for Science.

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 Professor Lacey has been an advisor to the British Government and is widely recognised as a world authority on Mad Cow Disease.

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=20 What is BSE and how did it start?
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=20 BSE, better known as mad cow disease, stands for Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, an infectious and incurable disease which slowly attacks the brain and nervous system of cattle. Spongiform encephalopathies are nothing new and are not confined to cattle. Scrapie, the form of the disease found in sheep, has been common in Britain for the past 200 years and a human version, Kuru, was once epidemic in tribal New Guinea. In the 1920s, another human version was identified in Western Europe and was called Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD).
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=20 The first officially confirmed cases of BSE were reported in late 1986 but it is believed that it may have occurred in Hampshire in 1985 and its exact origins are not known. BSE is caused by a mystery 'infectious agent' which is neither a virus nor a bacteria and current theory is that it is something called a 'prion'. No one has ever seen a prion, even under the most powerful microscope. It defies all the most basic rules of biology and any method of dealing with it lies at the very limits of present day science.
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=20 What does it do?
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=20 The period between becoming infected and showing symptoms for spongiform encephalopathies is usually long in relation to the life span of the animal. For example, Kuru in humans can take as long as 30 years to show itself but once established it rapidly causes dementia and death. Post mortems show the brain to be sponge-like and full of holes, hence the name 'spongiform'.
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=20 It is a horrible disease and in cattle, the first signs occur when the cow is put under any stress. Movement to a milking parlour might induce fear and panic and she may stand away from the rest of the herd, holding her head awkwardly. Milk production may drop and she usually loses a lot of weight.
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=20 Muscle wastage shows itself in twitching, quivering and shaking and the cow over-reacts to touch and becomes very jumpy. Eventually, she will shake violently, stagger and in the end be completely unable to stand up. The only way the disease can be confirmed is to remove the head after slaughter, cut it open and examine the brain. Both it and the rest of the body is then destroyed.
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=20 What's the connection between BSE and CJD?
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=20 Scrapie, BSE, Kuru and CJD are all spongiform encephalopathies capable of jumping from one species to another. For example, a sheep injected with tissue from a person suffering from CJD will die of scrapie. It seems that scrapie in sheep, BSE in cattle and CJD in humans are one and the same disease. The latest evidence shows that certainly BSE and CJD are the same.
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=20 How widespread is BSE?
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=20 By late 1997, the disease had been identified in over 167,000 animals and in over half of all cattle herds in Britain. New cases were being reported at the rate of about 300 per month. Some scientists including myself believe that, from the very beginning, the problem should have been tackled by destroying all herds with cattle likely to be incubating the disease.
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=20 BSE has affected all breeds of cattle including, significantly, Jerseys and Guernseys on their respective islands. The black and white Friesian Holstein dairy cows are the most common victims simply because there are far more of them in Britain. The youngest case of a cow showing the symptoms of BSE so far recorded was been 20 months, the oldest 18 years.
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=20 The cattle industry in Britain is under constant pressure to produce more milk and dairy products at the lowest possible cost because, they say, we the public demand it. It may be true but the price of our daily pinta is paid for dearly by the suffering animal. To provide as much milk as possible, cows are fed protein-rich, concentrated food which, until it was banned, included the rendered down remains of dead cows and other animals.
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=20 A cow only produces milk when she has a calf and shortly after birth, her calf is removed so humans can have her entire milk output. After three months she will be impregnated again, usually by artificial insemination, giving birth nine months later. During this time she faces the dual burden of pregnancy and milk giving. Such stress is unsustainable and after only three or four pregnancies her body begins to break down and she is slaughtered, usually at about six or seven years old when she could live well into her twenties. Almost the entire carcass is used - for burgers, sausages, pies, stocks and pet food. Until 1989 when it was banned, it included the brain and other 'specified offal' - spinal cord, thymus, spleen, tonsils and intestines.
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=20 More than 90 per cent of BSE cases have been in dairy cows rather than beef cattle as these cows are allowed to live longer - beef animals are slaughtered at two or three years old, veal calves at six months. The long incubation period for BSE ensures that most beef animals are slaughtered and eaten before they are old enough to show the symptoms, even though they may be infected.
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=20 Some of the same feed given to British animals has been exported to other countries and there have been outbreaks of BSE in France, Holland, Switzerland, Germany, Ireland, Oman, Falkland Islands, Denmark, Portugal, Canada and Italy, although on nothing like the scale of Britain.
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=20 Can you destroy BSE?
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=20 Although infected carcasses are now supposed to be incinerated, tens of thousands have already been buried on farms or dumped in landfill sites. As the BSE agent is extremely persistent, it can remain active even after years in the soil. According to Dr Stephen Dealler, there is some evidence that it can even survive incineration.
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=20 Some parts of the cow carry greater infectivity than others and when cattle are killed for food, the brain, spinal cord, spleen, thymus, tonsils and intestines ('specified offal') are removed. The Government insists that people are not at risk when they eat the remaining parts of the animals. It is a claim based more on hope than science.
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=20 Is BSE a danger to humans?
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=20 Despite years of denial, in 1996 the Government was eventually forced to admit that it is. However, it maintains that any risk is 'remote' and following the regulations it introduced in 1989, it now insists that beef is 'perfectly safe to eat'. Again it is a triumph of hope over science. Having finally been forced into making the admission that humans can catch BSE, ten years after it was first identified, the Government's record can clearly been seen as having placed the survival of the meat industry above concerns for human health.
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=20 We have known for years that humans can catch a form of BSE by eating infected food - that's clear from studies of the Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea. Cannibalism, especially amongst women hoping to increase their fertility, was common until very recently. In some villages, up to 80 per cent of these women died from a spongiform disease called kuru. It was first thought that kuru was inherited genetically but it has now been shown that it is an infection caused by eating the brains of dead relatives.
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=20 What we now have in Britain is essentially a new form of kuru which is showing similar symptoms - loss of co-ordination, memory loss and slurred speech eventually developing into muscle twitching, stumbling and falling over. Once the symptoms show themselves they advance rapidly and over a period of weeks the person becomes depressed, confused and unaware, unable to read or recognise even close relatives.
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=20 Towards the end, the patient is unconscious and often has fits or jerking spasms, is doubly incontinent, blind, deaf and speechless. Death usually comes about through lung or other infections.
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=20 When a post mortem is carried out, extreme care has to be taken because the disease is highly infectious. Pathologist wear a mask, goggles, gloves, boots and a plastic apron and any instruments have to be thoroughly sterilised. For example, the silver needles used for the EEG (brain examination) must be treated with high pressure steam for prolonged periods of time or put through six successive heat cycles in a sterilizer. Even then there is no guarantee of destroying the infection. If contaminated instruments are used on another patient, the disease can, and indeed has been, transferred.
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=20 CJD is so feared by some people in the medical profession that they have refused to perform post mortems where CJD is suspected. Some hospitals have even refused to admit patients suffering from it.
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=20 What was the Government's Reaction?
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=20 Deceit! It obscured the facts and fiddled the evidence at every stage of the investigation It has told expert scientists, including it's own advisors, to keep quiet in case the hugely profitable meat industry suffers.
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=20 In May 1988, the Government set up The Southwood Committee to examine the risks to both animal and human health. Extraordinarily, it had no experts on spongiform encephalopathies and none was consulted. Although experts in their own areas, none of the members of the Southwood Committee had done any research into spongiform diseases.
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=20 A month after the first meeting, the Government, on the advice of the committee, ordered the compulsory slaughter and destruction of carcasses of all affected cattle. It was already too late. Between the date of the first known case of BSE in late 1986 and the middle of 1988, at least 600 obviously diseased cows (plus an unknown amount of animals not yet obviously ill) had been slaughtered and their meat had found its way onto supermarket shelves. Half the normal price of carcasses was paid in compensation, which encouraged farmers not to report suspected cattle. The real extent of the problem remained unknown.
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=20 The second recommendation of the Southwood Committee was to set up another committee - the Tyrell Committee - to do more research, admitting that the problem was too big for it. The next meeting of the committee was five months later - some indication of how seriously the Government regarded the problem.
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=20 Its report admitted that spongiform encephalopathies were a danger to humans and stated: "With the very long incubation period it may be a decade or more before complete reassurance can be given." Quite extraordinarily, the Southwood Committee went on to say that ingestion (eating) was low down on the list of possible routes for infection. They were suggesting one rule for cattle and another for humans.
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=20 Two other conclusions of the Southwood Report were that there was no vertical transmission of BSE (from mother to calf) and that cattle would prove to be a 'dead-end host' - the disease would stop at cows and not infect other species. This introduced the revolutionary biological concept of a non-infectious infection. Of course it turned out that cattle were not a dead-end host and there is vertical transmission. The report went on to say: "...if our assessment of these likelihood's (of possible human infection) are incorrect, the implications would be extremely serious." Their assessments have been shown to be incorrect and we do have a potential crisis on our hands.
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=20 What action was taken?
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=20 The Government's lack of concern for human safety was evident by its response to the Tyrrell Committee's report. It said that the brains of all cattle sent for slaughter should be checked to see if they had BSE even if they had no symptoms. This was not done on the grounds that it was 'too expensive' - too expensive for the meat industry, that is.
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=20 The report also recommended, as a matter of urgency, the monitoring of all UK cases of CJD for the next 20 years in order to reassure the public that there was no link with BSE. 'Monitoring' currently means that a researcher checks death certificates for CJD. That's it as far as the UK Department of Health is concerned and CJD is not even a notifiable disease - health authorities are not required to notify the government when they have a case of CJD in their area. Of course, a real investigation was never considered and has never taken place because it would show that the Government was frightened of admitting to a major public health problem.
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=20 The report finished by saying that more research was needed and that controls to prevent the disease from spreading were not strict enough. Overall, the report was an excellent analysis of the situation as it was in 1989 but many of the proposals it made were ignored. Dated June 1989, it was not released until January 9 1990, again showing Government's lack of urgency. By this time they had accepted, although not publicly, that they did not know whether the disease could pass from cow to calf, whether it was possible other species could get BSE or whether an increase in sheep scrapie was the cause of the rise in BSE cases.
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=20 The feed ban.
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=20 As part of the cannibalistic merry-go-round that is an economically essential part of the meat industry, all the bits of animals from slaughterhouses unsuitable for human consumption are boiled up to produce fat and protein. The protein goes into animal feed. Apart from the obvious high risk of infections being passed on, it seems strange that nobody questioned the biological sense of forcing naturally vegetarian animals to become carnivores. Sheep brains were included in cattle feed and this is probably how cattle developed BSE.
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=20 In June 1988, the government imposed a six-month ban on feeding animal protein to cows and sheep. In December 1988, the ban was extended and laws stopped the sale of milk from cattle suspected of having BSE. However, banning infected feed did not stop the rise of BSE. Cases rose from 500 per month in January 1989 to 900 per month in December 1989.
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=20 Traces left behind by the 'mysterious agent' that causes spongiform encephalopathies have been found in many of the organs and tissues of animals. For example, cells from offal on the banned list enter the blood and find their way to many organs, including the liver and bones. The bones of cows are one of the main sources of the protein gelatine used in many foods - from peppermints to pork pies. It could present a particularly potent risk as the procedures used to concentrate gelatine might also concentrate the infection. As mothers can pass BSE on to their calves, probably through their blood, cattle blood could also be a carrier.
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=20 Despite all assurances, BSE did not go away. The monthly number of cases rose from 800 in January 1990 to 1,500 in December 1990. The Southwood Committee had predicted a maximum of 400 cases per month.
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=20 Other species catch BSE.
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=20 After four years of denying it, in February 1990 the Government was faced with proof that BSE could be passed to other species. Mice developed it after being fed infected meat. In May of the same year, a domestic cat died from a spongiform encephalopathy. Even then the Government stuck to its guns and denied BSE could jump species. By July 1990, when 52 other cats had died, the Government finally admitted that they had contracted the disease through eating pet food. The question was no longer whether BSE could affect other species but how many.
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=20 The following year, BSE was transmitted experimentally to seven out of eight species of mammal, including pigs and marmoset monkeys and in four experiments, this was by eating. A puma and a cheetah were also reported to have died of the disease. Evidence was mounting of an uncontrollable epidemic, with serious implications for humans.
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=20 When CJD, the human form of BSE, claimed the lives of two dairy farmers who had tended herds with BSE infected cattle, there was a feeling of inevitability. When Vicky Rimmer, a 15 year old Welsh girl, developed the symptoms of CJD, a disease which normally affects elderly people, there was a general feeling of shock. It wasn't helped when a doctor from the CJD surveillance unit examined Vicky and told her mother not to make her daughter's case public. According to the Daily Mirror (January 25, 1994) he told her she should think of the economy and the Common Market. It seemed certain that humans were another species which could catch CJD.
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=20 Finally, in April 1994, Government admitted that cows did pass BSE on to their calves and then later denied it!
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=20 The Truth at Last
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=20 The Tyrell Committee became the Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee (SEAC) and when it announced in March 1996 that a new form of CJD - nvCJD (new variant) had been identified and its most likely source was infected beef, it detonated a bomb, the sounds of which reverberated around the world.
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=20 The symptoms and pathology (the effect it has on the body) of this new human disease exactly mirror those of cattle suffering from BSE. Alarmingly, the 17 people identified with this new strain of CJD had an average age of 27 years. A disease once associated largely with old people has become a killer of young people.
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=20 The Government's first reaction was again less than honest. It claimed it relied entirely on science and every action (or lack of it) had been taken on this basis. However, science can be manipulated. The scientists appointed to SEAC by the Government were those who had never voiced any concerns about BSE. And to begin with, not even public health experts were asked for an opinion. It was a case of the Government ensuring it got the results it wanted.
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=20 How many humans are at risk?
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=20 No one knows for sure. However the science is now quite clear that humans can contract CJD from eating beef. If there had previously been any doubt, it was removed in October 1996 when scientists at St Mary's Hospital, London, issued a report showing that traces left behind by the distinctive protein which causes BSE was also present in nvCJD cases. It was the final fingerprint in the mystery.
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=20 Government had already been made to squirm in June of the same year when they were forced to admit that there tests had shown that BSE could be passed from cow to calf. It raised the prospect that the infective agent was present in the blood. The only question now remaining is how many people will die. The government simply refuses to acknowledge it has made mistakes and will not make any prediction about the size of a possible epidemic.
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=20 Dr. Stephen Dealler puts the potential for human deaths at about 250,000 but admits it could be anywhere between 1,000 and 10 million. My own worst case scenario is 500,000 deaths annually for many years.
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=20 Is beef safe now?
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=20 Having banned certain offal in 1989 and supposedly introduced new handling schemes for abattoirs, the Government has consistently claimed that beef is perfectly safe to eat. The truth is they don't know. 1) They have no idea how strong the "species barrier" is between cattle and humans. 2) They do not know the effects of long-term exposure to low doses of BSE. 3) They don't know if the infectivity is distributed evenly through the same tissue. 4) They do not know how long it takes for people to become infected. 5) And they do not know if there is such a thing as a safe dose. SEAC admits all this.
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=20 It is now beyond doubt that infected cows have low doses of the infection in all parts of their body - the peripheral nerves and possibly also in the blood. And it is beyond doubt that infected cattle are still being eaten. The Government's own secret papers reveal that for every cow diagnosed with BSE and removed from the food chain, two other infected animals are eaten.
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=20 In1990, a trading standards officer revealed that infected cattle were still entering the food chain because farmers were failing to report them. It was a result of the Government offering only 50 per cent compensation. When compensation was later increased to 100 per cent, there was a flood of reported cases. The slaughterhouse regulations were also not working. In September 1995, the State Veterinary Service made visits to 193 slaughterhouses and found regulations were being ignored in almost half of them. In October, a further 153 visits revealed failings in one third.
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=20 There has also been widespread flouting of the herd controls with farmers obtaining false certificates declaring their herds are BSE free when if fact they have had infections. Other farmers have sold infected cattle on to special dealers and again have claimed that their herds are BSE free when they are not. Viva! also established that prior to the current ban on live exports, controls were being ignored and upwards of 75,000 calves from infected herds were being shipped abroad each year, some of which were grown on to maturity. This helped to ensure that BSE was spread across continental Europe.
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=20 Having supposedly banned the use of feed containing the remains of other animals for ruminants in 1989, it was still in use for pigs and chickens up until March 1996. Bone meal, blood and offal was also still in use up to this date and was spread on fields as fertiliser. The Government's own scientists fear that this practice may have infected our rivers and water supply.
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=20 Also in 1996, in another completely inexplicable decision, Government announced the banning of bone meal for commercial use on fields used by ruminants but still allows it to be used in domestic gardens. The logic is obvious - humans cannot catch the disease, only cattle. Viva! has called for a complete ban on all bone meal.
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=20 Is Milk Safe?
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=20 This is an area of concern for many people. Dairy products are supposed to be free of the cells which carry the infection and in theory should be safe for human consumption. However, there is the problem of mastitis in dairy cows which affects about 30 per cent of the herd. It is probable that puss from the swollen udders could enter the milk supply but is unlikely to be present in sufficient quantity to present a risk.
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=20 How reliable is the Government's Science?
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=20 From the start of the outbreak the Government has been careful to ignore any science which did not support its claim that beef is safe to eat. It maintained that tests with mice showed there was no risk from prime muscle meat. Had they looked at mink instead they would have found they did developed BSE after being injected with muscle meat, lung and sciatic nerve tissue - all still being eaten by humans.
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=20 Had they looked at research from the Institute of Animal Health they would have found that BSE is most easily caught when infected meat comes into contact with open wounds - as much as 1000 times more potent.. This could provide the answer to why nvCJD victims are so young. hen milk teeth are lost, bloody cavities are left behind and come into contact with the food that's eaten. Equally, small stomach haemorrhages are common in many young people as a reaction to dairy products. What better vectors could there be?
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=20 What Next?
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=20 It is now too late for the government, or anyone else, to launch any widespread studies into the dangers faced by the human population. The biggest study in the history of the human race is already underway. We can expect to see an increasing number of deaths of young people, the actual number providing a clue as to the future progress of the disease.
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=20 From the beginning, every claim made by Government has been wrong, they have selectively quoted from the scientists and have used animal experimentation to cloud the facts. It is one of the most cynical exercises in modern politics. Just days before the 1997 general election it came to light that another report on BSE had been suppressed for six years -one showing that dogs were susceptible to the disease.
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=20 The survival of one industry - the meat and dairy industry - has been placed above human life, possibly millions of humans lives. It is nothing short of criminal deceit and those responsible should be called to account.
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=20 Animals infected by BSE

Nyala
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Chronology - (additional to text)

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November 1986 - First cases of BSE in cows confirmed
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=20 June 21, 1989 - farmers required to notify any BSE cases.
=20 July 18, 1989 - ruminant feed ban introduced.
=20 February 14, 1990 - compensation increased to 100%.
=20 July 10, 1991 - ban on export of SBO to any country.
=20 November 6, 1991 - ban on SBO in fertiliser.
=20 May 14, 1992 - EC bans trade in suspect bovine embryos.
=20 January 21, 1994 - compensation for infected cattle reduced.
=20 June 27, 1994 - EC stops feeding animal protein to cattle.
=20 March 27, 1996 - export ban on UK been imposed.
=20 April 29, 1996 - over 30 month slaughter scheme introduced.
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Kojom prilikom vozite bicikl? = }{\i\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 ( = Mo\'9eete zaokru\'9eiti vi\'9ae ponu\'f0enih odgovora. = )}{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. od ku\'e6e do \'9akole / = fakulteta / posla \par \tab 2. za prijevoz do prijatelja, du\'e6ana i sli\'e8no \par \tab 3. za prijevoz stvari \par \tab 4. u slobodno vrijeme - za rekreaciju \par }{\b\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab =20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par 8. 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Da = li ste zadovoljni brojem i kvalitetom biciklisti\'e8kih staza u gradu = Zagrebu?}{\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. da \par \tab 2. ne \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par 10. \'8ato po va\'9aem mi\'9aljenju ote\'9eava vo\'9enju biciklom = po gradu? }{\i\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 ( Zaokru\'9eite = najvi\'9ae tri ponu\'f0ena odgovora. ) \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. nepostojanje biciklisti\'e8kih = staza \par \tab 2. gust i brz automobilski promet \par \tab 3. netolerantan na\'e8in pona\'9aanja voza\'e8a motornih = vozila prema biciklistima u prometu \par \tab 4. neadekvatni i neure\'f0eni kolnici \par \tab 5. \'9atetne benzinske pare=20 \par=20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 11. = Da li je vo\'9enja biciklom po gradu rizi\'e8na po zdravlje i \'9eivot? \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. da, vrlo \par \tab 2. da, povremeno \par \tab 3. ne \par=20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 12. = \'8ato bi se dobilo s ve\'e6im brojem bicikla, a manjim brojem = automobila, barem u u\'9eem sredi\'9atu grada? \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. \'e8i\'9a\'e6i zrak \par \tab 2. ljep\'9ai ukupni ambijent sredi\'9ata grada \par \tab 3. ne\'9ato drugo, \'9ato = _________________________________________________________ \par=20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 13. = Da li bi koristila/o bicikl kada bi se napravile biciklisti\'e8ke staze = u nekim dijelovima grada? \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. da \par \tab 2. ne \par=20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 14. = Va\'9a prijedlog novih biciklisti\'e8kih staza, relacija \'93od - = do\'94: \par }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 = _________________________________________________________________________= ____ \par=20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 15. = Da li smatrate da treba napraviti sigurna parkirali\'9ata za bicikle u = gradu?}{\b\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. da \par \tab 2. ne}{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par }\pard \ql = \li0\ri0\sl320\slmult0\nowidctlpar\tx9072\faauto\rin0\lin0\itap0 = {\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par 16. Ako \'93da\'94, gdje?}{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 = ____________________________________________________________ \par=20 \par }\pard \ql = \li0\ri0\sl320\slmult0\nowidctlpar\tx520\tx2040\tx7800\faauto\rin0\lin0\i= tap0 {\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par 17. Da li biste sudjelovali u akcijama koje bi promovirale = kori\'9atenje bicikla u gradu = Zagrebu?}{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par \tab }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 1. da \par \tab 2. ne}{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par }{\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par 18. Ako ste predhodno odgovorili sa \'93da\'94 molimo vas, ukoliko = \'9eelite, upi\'9aite: \par }\pard \ql = \fi-567\li567\ri0\sl320\slmult0\nowidctlpar\tx520\tx2040\tx7800\faauto\ri= n0\lin567\itap0 {\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 \tab = }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 Ime i = prezime_____________________________ \par broj tel.__________________________________ \par }\pard \ql = \li0\ri0\sl320\slmult0\nowidctlpar\tx520\tx2040\tx7800\faauto\rin0\lin0\i= tap0 {\b\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par=20 \par 19. Dodatni komentar = sugovornika:}{\f28\fs20\expnd4\expndtw20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par }{\f28\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050 = _________________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________ ___________________________________________ \par=20 \par }{\f28\fs20\lang1050\langfe1033\langnp1050=20 \par=20 \par=20 \par Anketar: ____________________________ = Datum:____________________ = }{\f28\fs20=20 \par }} ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0AA46.8531A5F0-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Sun Mar 11 19:41:14 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Zoran Livaic) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:41:14 +0100 Subject: Peticija Message-ID: <021a01c0aa64$f9179e20$1c96bfd5@pc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_020C_01C0AA6B.9D953D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve vi=B9e napredujemo!!! Jeste li glede peticije za uvo=F0enje vegeterijanskih objeda u javne = ustanove stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom udrugom. Ako niste ja =E6u im = poslati po=B9tom peticiju pa nek ljudi potpisuju. Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da po=B9alju svo to mno=B9tvo = popunjenih lista. Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla potpisivati i po du=E6anima = zdrave hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i ubrzati. Zoran=20 ------=_NextPart_000_020C_01C0AA6B.9D953D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve = više=20 napredujemo!!!
 
Jeste li glede peticije za = uvo=F0enje=20 vegeterijanskih objeda u javne ustanove
stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom = udrugom.=20 Ako niste ja =E6u im poslati
poštom peticiju pa nek ljudi = potpisuju.
Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da = pošalju svo=20 to mnoštvo popunjenih
lista.
 
Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla = potpisivati i po=20 du=E6anima zdrave
hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i=20 ubrzati.
 
Zoran 
 
------=_NextPart_000_020C_01C0AA6B.9D953D80-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 12 00:46:50 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Stjepan) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:46:50 +0100 Subject: radio Message-ID: <001801c0aa8e$0b9a1860$3394bfd5@stjepanv> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0AA96.4EF3F100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable poslusao sam Ivanov savjet i upalio radio inace cesto slusam tu emisiju na 3 programu hr-a i moram priznati da je = ovaj razgovorjedam od rijetkih koji pogadzaju u srz problema malo me je uzrujao jer sam se podsjedio na razmjere borbe i doslovni = smrad trulezi sistema al svejedno smatram da ona istinska promjena dolazi od iznutra prema = van, i to ne uvjetovano u svakom pojedincu mislim da sistemu treba postaviti nogu da se razbije, ali to se samo = radi usput pozdrav, Stjepan ( ) ) ( ( ) \./ > > > | < < < stjepan druid _______/_\_______icq 82058309 < > > < < > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0AA96.4EF3F100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
poslusao sam Ivanov savjet i upalio=20 radio
 
inace cesto slusam tu emisiju na 3 = programu hr-a i=20 moram priznati da je ovaj razgovorjedam od rijetkih koji pogadzaju = u srz=20 problema
malo me je uzrujao jer sam se podsjedio = na razmjere=20 borbe i doslovni smrad trulezi sistema
al svejedno smatram da ona istinska = promjena dolazi=20 od iznutra prema van, i to ne uvjetovano u svakom pojedincu
mislim da sistemu treba postaviti nogu = da se=20 razbije, ali to se samo radi usput
 
pozdrav, Stjepan
 
 
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0AA96.4EF3F100-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 12 09:12:22 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:12:22 +0100 Subject: radio References: <001801c0aa8e$0b9a1860$3394bfd5@stjepanv> Message-ID: <007001c0aad4$8cc3ba40$6ea871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> E Ivane ne znas ni sam kakvu si mi divovsku uslugu napravio. Na zalost emisiju nisam uspjela cuti jer sam imala opasnih problema sa Real Playerom, morala sam ga potpuno skinuti iz kompjutera i nanovo downloadati i instalirati i to je bogme potrajalo, ali sad mogu slusati par radio programa i gledati HTV1! Evo slusal cijelo jutro neku pjesmu "Jano, Janice" :-))) Na zalost ove pare sto ce potrositi na njen docek mogle su financirati nesto drugo. I Svedjani su priredili kraljevski docek Peru Elofssonu kad je osvojio zlato u Finskoj ali su sugradjani koji su ga docekali sa limuzinomi vatrometom sve platili iz vlastitog dzepa, ne opcinskog ili nekog drrugog... Hvala ti Ivane jos jednom! Mae From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Mon Mar 12 13:06:14 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Stjepan) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:06:14 +0100 Subject: seminari Message-ID: <001d01c0aaf5$54ecfa20$588abfd5@stjepanv> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0AAFD.99AEEE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ola jucer sam u mocvari sreo Lubica koji vozi kombi zelene akcije i kaze da = nema problema za prevoz stolova, samo mu trebamo javiti navrijeme... uglavnom, kroz razgovor skuzio sam da on i teo (i gomila drugih ljudi) = idu na neki seminar neke njemacke fondacije, a na takvim mjestima se da = puno toga korisnog nauciti po europi se konstantno organiziraju slicni seminari gdje se odrzavaju = razne radionice (fundraiseing, organizacija protesta, projekata, = kampanja, uredski poslovi...) i di koja drektna akcija namjena je obuka aktivista (u "green mean fighting machine") organizatori su vece udruge tipa EYFA, Greenpeace... ili same fondacije obicno placaju putne troskove i boravak mogao bi nas probat staviti na liste NGO-a cije aktiviste pozivaju, al = bilo bi pozeljno da je udruga registrirana? bio sam na par takvih seminara i svakom ih preporucam. to su uglavnom = mladi ljudi i velikom vecinom su vegetarijanci ili vegani. znaci: dobro = drusto, zezancija (guzica ti vidi svijeta), sticanje prakticnog znanja i = najvaznije- ostvaruju se kontakti sa slicnim ljudima (udrugama) po = svijetu detalji se moze naci na sajtovima tih organizacija kajaznam, mozda vec znate za to ( ) ) ( ( ) \./ > > > | < < < stjepan druid _______/_\_______icq 82058309 < > > < < > ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0AAFD.99AEEE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ola
 
jucer sam u mocvari sreo Lubica koji = vozi kombi=20 zelene akcije i kaze da nema problema za prevoz stolova, samo mu = trebamo=20 javiti navrijeme...
 
uglavnom, kroz razgovor skuzio sam = da on i teo=20 (i gomila drugih ljudi) idu na neki seminar neke njemacke fondacije, a = na takvim=20 mjestima se da puno toga korisnog nauciti
po europi se konstantno organiziraju = slicni=20 seminari gdje se odrzavaju razne radionice (fundraiseing, = organizacija=20 protesta, projekata, kampanja, uredski poslovi...) i di koja = drektna=20 akcija
namjena je obuka aktivista (u = "green mean=20 fighting machine")
organizatori su vece udruge tipa = EYFA,=20 Greenpeace... ili same fondacije
obicno placaju putne troskove i=20 boravak
 
mogao bi nas probat staviti = na liste NGO-a=20 cije aktiviste pozivaju, al bilo bi pozeljno da je udruga=20 registrirana?
 
bio sam na par takvih seminara i svakom = ih=20 preporucam. to su uglavnom mladi ljudi i velikom vecinom su = vegetarijanci ili=20 vegani. znaci: dobro drusto, zezancija (guzica ti vidi svijeta), = sticanje=20 prakticnog znanja i najvaznije- ostvaruju se kontakti sa = slicnim=20 ljudima (udrugama) po svijetu
 
detalji se moze naci na sajtovima tih=20 organizacija
 
 
kajaznam, mozda vec znate za = to
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0AAFD.99AEEE40-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Tue Mar 13 01:31:51 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:31:51 +0000 Subject: radio References: <001801c0aa8e$0b9a1860$3394bfd5@stjepanv> <007001c0aad4$8cc3ba40$6ea871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <3AAD787E.F115CBDD@globalnet.hr> Mae wrote: > E Ivane ne znas ni sam kakvu si mi divovsku uslugu napravio. ali sad mogu slusati par radio programa i gledati HTV1! Evo slusal cijelo jutro neku pjesmu "Jano, Janice" :-))) Prije medvjedju nego divovsku! > > Na zalost ove pare sto ce potrositi na njen docek mogle su financirati nesto drugo. I Svedjani su priredili kraljevski docek Peru Elofssonu kad je osvojio zlato u Finskoj ali su sugradjani koji su ga docekali sa limuzinomi vatrometom sve platili iz vlastitog dzepa, ne opcinskog ili nekog drrugog... Dobra poanta. Ali nemoj tako, pa Jamnica ce pojesti sve te stotine kremsnita. Inace da pojasnimo: Elofsson je genijalni skijaski trkac, ne alpski skijas (velika razlika!). Skijasko trcanje je za proletere, stovatelje prirode i Skandinavce. Ne postoji zdraviji sport (zimi - definitino ne postoji), a oprema dodje 300 DEM, za razliku od opreme za alpsko koja dodje 1300 DEM, a onda moras na zimovanje u ski-centar gdje te na brijeg vuce zicara koja kosta 70 DEM na dan, a pokrece ju benzin ili struja iz nuklearke. Ali razlika je u tome da je ski-trcanje tesko (ide po ravnom, cak i uzbrdo), a nizbrdo (u alpskom) se skijas na gravitaciju: sto si deblji vise uzivas! Alpsko skijanje je za burzuje i - za Hrvate, naravno, kao i tenis. (Dobicemo centar na Sljemenu, ne?... Za specijalno skijanje po blatu.) Kada idem na skijasko trcanje nosim majicu sa natpisom "Nizbrdo se i drek kotrlja". Isprika za off-topic. Ivan From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Tue Mar 13 09:09:33 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:09:33 +0100 Subject: Peticija References: <021a01c0aa64$f9179e20$1c96bfd5@pc> Message-ID: <00eb01c0abb6$55f522a0$fa96bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0ABA5.B363F580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Odlicna ideja Zorane! Trebalo bi kontaktirati Vegetarijansku udrugu, = ali ne samo da stave to na site vec i zbog par drugih stvari oko te = inicijative. Mozemo se to dogovoriti... A inace, potpuno se slazem da bi trebalo odnijeti te peticije u ducane = zdrave hrane ako bi oni bili zainteresirani to drzati kod sebe. To bi = bilo korisno i za onaj popis ljudi koji su zainteresirani za nesto vise. = Mozda bi mogli i napraviti e-mail peticiju koju bi ekipa slala na = adresu koju bi otvoritil. Npr. veganska-akcija@eGroups.com ili = yahoo.com. Neznam, ajmo vidjeti... Pozdrav, Domagoj=20 Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve vi=B9e napredujemo!!! =20 Jeste li glede peticije za uvo=F0enje vegeterijanskih objeda u javne = ustanove stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom udrugom. Ako niste ja =E6u im = poslati po=B9tom peticiju pa nek ljudi potpisuju. Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da po=B9alju svo to mno=B9tvo = popunjenih lista. =20 Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla potpisivati i po = du=E6anima zdrave hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i ubrzati. =20 Zoran=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0ABA5.B363F580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI = VEGETARIJANCI
Odlicna ideja Zorane! Trebalo bi = kontaktirati=20 Vegetarijansku udrugu, ali ne samo da stave to na site vec i = zbog par=20 drugih stvari oko te inicijative. Mozemo se to = dogovoriti...
 
A inace, potpuno se slazem da = bi trebalo=20 odnijeti te peticije u ducane zdrave hrane ako bi oni bili = zainteresirani to=20 drzati kod sebe. To bi bilo korisno i za onaj popis ljudi koji su = zainteresirani za nesto vise.
 
Mozda bi mogli i napraviti e-mail = peticiju koju=20 bi ekipa slala na adresu koju bi otvoritil. Npr. veganska-akcija@eGroups.com=20 ili yahoo.com. Neznam, ajmo=20 vidjeti...
 
Pozdrav,
Domagoj 
 
 
Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve = vi=B9e=20 napredujemo!!!
 
Jeste li glede peticije za = uvo=F0enje=20 vegeterijanskih objeda u javne ustanove
stupili u kontakt sa = Vegeterijanskom udrugom.=20 Ako niste ja =E6u im poslati
po=B9tom peticiju pa nek ljudi = potpisuju.
Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da = po=B9alju svo to=20 mno=B9tvo popunjenih
lista.
 
Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla = potpisivati i=20 po du=E6anima zdrave
hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i=20 ubrzati.
 
Zoran 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0ABA5.B363F580-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 11:54:17 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net ( Mae) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:54:17 +0100 Subject: Help Stop Stephens (HLS) Las Vegas Conference References: Message-ID: <009201c0ac7d$80d66e80$17a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> Even one email to the multiple conference speakers listed below will be very helpful. *please forward to other animal friendly list* Stephens, Inc. was the secret U.S. investor that saved Huntingdon Life Sciences from being closed by extending them a $33 million loan. Stephens, Inc. was already HLS's largest shareholder with 45.6 million shares. Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS) is one of the world's largest contract animal testing companies with headquarters in Great Britain, and a U.S. laboratory located in East Millstone, NJ. Everyday 500 animals ­ including dogs, cats, monkeys, guinea pigs, rabbits, rats, mice, and birds ­ die behind the walls of HLS. All of the suffering and torture the animals face would have come to an end if Stephens didn't step in-now they must be held accountable! The following are featured speakers at an upcoming investment conference in Las Vegas (March 21-23) sponsored by Stephens (more info http://www.march21.net). Please contact these speakers before Tuesday March 20 to express your concern with them supporting Stephens. Let's make sure that their featured speakers are well aware of potential problems at the conference and are WORRIED and convey that message to Stephens on their own. Hearing concerns from their own guys might have more impact than hearing from us. It would sure be a bummer for Stephens if some of their speakers canceled at the last minute! This may be their first exposure to this issue and it will likely be their first time as the target of this type of campaign. Explain that ethical people do NOT support companies that cruelly kill animals. Also, explain that if they continue to support Stephens they may become targets of similar demonstrations. *sample letter is at the bottom of this email following the contact info for the speakers* Please contact the following before Tuesday March 20 ************** Quick email (If you can only send one email - copy & paste into To: field of your email to email most of below): Wayne D. Angel , Joe Palmisano and Josh Stiles , Thomas Doe , Teri L Geske , Richard W Cortright and Ronald M Barone Web Forms (for those without email addresses): http://www.fanniemae.com/contact/email_form.html http://www.ideaglobal.com/contact/contact.html http://www.theconsensus.com/frames/contact/frame1.html http://www.salomonsmithbarney.com/cust_srv/contact/helpdesk/sugcomm.html ****************Details/Phone/Fax/800 Numbers Follow********** Biographies, Photos, more details: http://www.stephens.com/institutionalsales&trading/conferences/speakers.asp Wayne D. Angell Chief Economist and Senior Managing Director Bear, Stearns & Co. 245 Park Avenue New York, NY 10167 Email: infocenter@bear.com (888) 473-3819 (toll-free) (212) 272-2000 **************** David Berson Chief Economist Fannie Mae Valarie D. Eiland Director, Credit Union Marketing, Fannie Mae Nancy Greiner Funding Desk Fannie Mae Franklin D. Raines Chairman and CEO Fannie Mae 3900 Wisconsin Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20016-2892 202-752-7000 1-800-7FANNIE (1-800-732-6643) web form: http://www.fanniemae.com/contact/email_form.html **************** Joe Palmisano Technical Analyst for IDEAglobal Josh Stiles Director of Research for IDEAglobal Web form: http://www.ideaglobal.com/contact/contact.html **************** Rob Landauer Director of Business Development Andrew Davidson & Co., Inc. 520 Broadway Eight Floor New York, NY 10012 Email: ilda@ad-co.com 212-274-9075 fax 212-274-0545 **************** Thomas Doe, President Municipal Market Advisors 75 Main Street Concord, Massachusetts 01742 (978) 287-0014 (tel) (978) 371-2064 (fax) email: tdoe@theConsensus.com Web form: http://www.theconsensus.com/frames/contact/frame1.html **************** Joe Deane Managing Director Smith Barney Asset Management Webform: http://www.salomonsmithbarney.com/cust_srv/contact/helpdesk/sugcomm.html **************** Teri L. Geske Senior Vice President of Product Development Capital Management Sciences 11766 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90025 Phone (310) 479-9715 Fax (310) 479-6333 Email: cms_info@cms.dbc.com **************** Ronald M. Barone Managing Director, Corporate and Government Ratings Group Standard & Poor's Richard W. Cortright, Jr. Director, Corporate and Government Ratings Group Standard & Poor's Institutional Market Services 55 Water Street New York, NY 10041-0003 Chicago, Illinois (800) 356-8552 Boston, Massachusetts (800) 532-2763 Email: questions@standardandpoors.com *******SAMPLE LETTER******** Note: please feel free to use your own words as well! {insert name of person/company contacting} Dear {insert name of person/company} I am writing today to voice my outrage and disappointment over your support of Stephens Inc. by speaking at the Fixed Investment Symposium held in Las Vegas, Nevada which is sponsored by Stephens Inc. (see http://www.march21.net) Stephens, Inc. was the secret U.S. investor that saved Huntingdon Life Sciences from being closed by extending them a $33 million loan. Stephens, Inc. was already HLS's largest shareholder with 45.6 million shares. On January 17th, representatives from Stop Huntingdon Animal Cruelty had met with two representatives of Stephens regarding its holding shares in HLS. SHAC presented information from the five investigations inside HLS and documented a detailed pattern of animal abuse and horrific cruelty going on inside the labs. SHAC also provided information as to why HLS is a bad business investment. Stephens chose to ignore these facts and is now responsible for keeping Huntingdon Life Sciences open. We must remember that for each day that HLS remains open, another 500 dogs, cats, monkeys and other animals die in agony. The five separate undercover investigations, showed employees of Huntingdon Life Sciences were caught on video subjecting animals to extreme cruelty and abuse. In London, an investigation filmed 4-month old puppies being punched and thrown against the wall. In New Jersey, technicians were filmed laughing at and mocking a tied-down, frightened monkey while squirting lubricant into his mouth. How can Stephens Inc possibly support such barbarous treatment of animals? I join thousands of other animal advocates to demand Stephens Inc to immediately cease its support for Huntingdon Life Sciences. We ask you to end your support of animal cruelty and abuse by refusing to speak at this or any other event sponsored by Stephens. As part of my commitment to ending the pain and suffering endured by the animals under the hands of Huntingdon Life Sciences, I will urge my family and friends to join me in boycotting any company associated with Huntingdon Life Sciences. Sincerely, Name Address To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: CloseHLS-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 13:25:11 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:25:11 -0800 Subject: Peticija Message-ID: <20010314132511.1892.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 13 March 2001, "Veganska akcija" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
 
>
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI
>
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> >
Odlicna ideja Zorane! Trebalo bi kontaktirati > Vegetarijansku udrugu, ali ne samo da stave to na site vec i zbog par > drugih stvari oko te inicijative. Mozemo se to dogovoriti...
>
 
>
A inace, potpuno se slazem da bi trebalo > odnijeti te peticije u ducane zdrave hrane ako bi oni bili zainteresirani to > drzati kod sebe. To bi bilo korisno i za onaj popis ljudi koji su > zainteresirani za nesto vise.
>
 
>
Mozda bi mogli i napraviti e-mail peticiju koju > bi ekipa slala na adresu koju bi otvoritil. Npr. href="mailto:veganska-akcija@eGroups.com"> size=2>veganska-akcija@eGroups.com > ili yahoo.com. Neznam, ajmo > vidjeti...
>
 
>
Pozdrav,
>
Domagoj 
>
 
>
 
>
Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve vi¹e > napredujemo!!!
>
 
>
Jeste li glede peticije za uvošenje > vegeterijanskih objeda u javne ustanove
>
stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom udrugom. > Ako niste ja ęu im poslati
>
po¹tom peticiju pa nek ljudi potpisuju.
>
Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da po¹alju svo to > mno¹tvo popunjenih
>
lista.
>
 
>
Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla potpisivati i > po duęanima zdrave
>
hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i > ubrzati.
>
 
>
Zoran 
>
 
Ova peticija je svakako dobra ideja jer cinjenica je da mnogo ljudi uistinu zeli vegan hranu po javnim ustanovama i restoranima ali nisu u prilici je dobiti jer te hrane tamo jednostavno nema. U biti su manje vise prisiljeni jesti animal hranu jer nemaju bas previse izbora. Kad je iduci sastanak {ako je ikako moguce u petak} Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 13:25:11 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:25:11 -0800 Subject: Peticija Message-ID: <20010314132511.1892.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 13 March 2001, "Veganska akcija" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
 
>
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI
>
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> >
Odlicna ideja Zorane! Trebalo bi kontaktirati > Vegetarijansku udrugu, ali ne samo da stave to na site vec i zbog par > drugih stvari oko te inicijative. Mozemo se to dogovoriti...
>
 
>
A inace, potpuno se slazem da bi trebalo > odnijeti te peticije u ducane zdrave hrane ako bi oni bili zainteresirani to > drzati kod sebe. To bi bilo korisno i za onaj popis ljudi koji su > zainteresirani za nesto vise.
>
 
>
Mozda bi mogli i napraviti e-mail peticiju koju > bi ekipa slala na adresu koju bi otvoritil. Npr. href="mailto:veganska-akcija@eGroups.com"> size=2>veganska-akcija@eGroups.com > ili yahoo.com. Neznam, ajmo > vidjeti...
>
 
>
Pozdrav,
>
Domagoj 
>
 
>
 
>
Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve vi¹e > napredujemo!!!
>
 
>
Jeste li glede peticije za uvošenje > vegeterijanskih objeda u javne ustanove
>
stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom udrugom. > Ako niste ja ęu im poslati
>
po¹tom peticiju pa nek ljudi potpisuju.
>
Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da po¹alju svo to > mno¹tvo popunjenih
>
lista.
>
 
>
Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla potpisivati i > po duęanima zdrave
>
hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i > ubrzati.
>
 
>
Zoran 
>
 
Ova peticija je svakako dobra ideja jer cinjenica je da mnogo ljudi uistinu zeli vegan hranu po javnim ustanovama i restoranima ali nisu u prilici je dobiti jer te hrane tamo jednostavno nema. U biti su manje vise prisiljeni jesti animal hranu jer nemaju bas previse izbora. Kad je iduci sastanak {ako je ikako moguce u petak} Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 13:25:37 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:25:37 -0800 Subject: Peticija Message-ID: <20010314132537.1912.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 13 March 2001, "Veganska akcija" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
 
>
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI
>
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> >
Odlicna ideja Zorane! Trebalo bi kontaktirati > Vegetarijansku udrugu, ali ne samo da stave to na site vec i zbog par > drugih stvari oko te inicijative. Mozemo se to dogovoriti...
>
 
>
A inace, potpuno se slazem da bi trebalo > odnijeti te peticije u ducane zdrave hrane ako bi oni bili zainteresirani to > drzati kod sebe. To bi bilo korisno i za onaj popis ljudi koji su > zainteresirani za nesto vise.
>
 
>
Mozda bi mogli i napraviti e-mail peticiju koju > bi ekipa slala na adresu koju bi otvoritil. Npr. href="mailto:veganska-akcija@eGroups.com"> size=2>veganska-akcija@eGroups.com > ili yahoo.com. Neznam, ajmo > vidjeti...
>
 
>
Pozdrav,
>
Domagoj 
>
 
>
 
>
Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve vi¹e > napredujemo!!!
>
 
>
Jeste li glede peticije za uvošenje > vegeterijanskih objeda u javne ustanove
>
stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom udrugom. > Ako niste ja ęu im poslati
>
po¹tom peticiju pa nek ljudi potpisuju.
>
Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da po¹alju svo to > mno¹tvo popunjenih
>
lista.
>
 
>
Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla potpisivati i > po duęanima zdrave
>
hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i > ubrzati.
>
 
>
Zoran 
>
 
Ova peticija je svakako dobra ideja jer cinjenica je da mnogo ljudi uistinu zeli vegan hranu po javnim ustanovama i restoranima ali nisu u prilici je dobiti jer te hrane tamo jednostavno nema. U biti su manje vise prisiljeni jesti animal hranu jer nemaju bas previse izbora. Kad je iduci sastanak {ako je ikako moguce u petak} Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 13:25:37 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:25:37 -0800 Subject: Peticija Message-ID: <20010314132537.1912.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 13 March 2001, "Veganska akcija" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
 
>
DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI
>
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> >
Odlicna ideja Zorane! Trebalo bi kontaktirati > Vegetarijansku udrugu, ali ne samo da stave to na site vec i zbog par > drugih stvari oko te inicijative. Mozemo se to dogovoriti...
>
 
>
A inace, potpuno se slazem da bi trebalo > odnijeti te peticije u ducane zdrave hrane ako bi oni bili zainteresirani to > drzati kod sebe. To bi bilo korisno i za onaj popis ljudi koji su > zainteresirani za nesto vise.
>
 
>
Mozda bi mogli i napraviti e-mail peticiju koju > bi ekipa slala na adresu koju bi otvoritil. Npr. href="mailto:veganska-akcija@eGroups.com"> size=2>veganska-akcija@eGroups.com > ili yahoo.com. Neznam, ajmo > vidjeti...
>
 
>
Pozdrav,
>
Domagoj 
>
 
>
 
>
Svakim danom u svakom pogledu sve vi¹e > napredujemo!!!
>
 
>
Jeste li glede peticije za uvošenje > vegeterijanskih objeda u javne ustanove
>
stupili u kontakt sa Vegeterijanskom udrugom. > Ako niste ja ęu im poslati
>
po¹tom peticiju pa nek ljudi potpisuju.
>
Samo bi trebao obavijest na koju adresu da po¹alju svo to > mno¹tvo popunjenih
>
lista.
>
 
>
Sad mi pade na pamet da bi se peticija mogla potpisivati i > po duęanima zdrave
>
hrane. Kaj velite na to. Stvar bi se mogla malo i > ubrzati.
>
 
>
Zoran 
>
 
Ova peticija je svakako dobra ideja jer cinjenica je da mnogo ljudi uistinu zeli vegan hranu po javnim ustanovama i restoranima ali nisu u prilici je dobiti jer te hrane tamo jednostavno nema. U biti su manje vise prisiljeni jesti animal hranu jer nemaju bas previse izbora. Kad je iduci sastanak {ako je ikako moguce u petak} Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 13:34:49 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:34:49 -0800 Subject: seminari Message-ID: <20010314133449.9434.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Mon, 12 March 2001, "Stjepan" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
ola
>
 
>
jucer sam u mocvari sreo Lubica koji vozi kombi > zelene akcije i kaze da nema problema za prevoz stolova, samo mu trebamo > javiti navrijeme...
>
 
>
uglavnom, kroz razgovor skuzio sam da on i teo > (i gomila drugih ljudi) idu na neki seminar neke njemacke fondacije, a na takvim > mjestima se da puno toga korisnog nauciti
>
po europi se konstantno organiziraju slicni > seminari gdje se odrzavaju razne radionice (fundraiseing, organizacija > protesta, projekata, kampanja, uredski poslovi...) i di koja drektna > akcija
>
namjena je obuka aktivista (u "green mean > fighting machine")
>
organizatori su vece udruge tipa EYFA, > Greenpeace... ili same fondacije
>
obicno placaju putne troskove i > boravak
>
 
>
mogao bi nas probat staviti na liste NGO-a > cije aktiviste pozivaju, al bilo bi pozeljno da je udruga > registrirana?
>
 
>
bio sam na par takvih seminara i svakom ih > preporucam. to su uglavnom mladi ljudi i velikom vecinom su vegetarijanci ili > vegani. znaci: dobro drusto, zezancija (guzica ti vidi svijeta), sticanje > prakticnog znanja i najvaznije- ostvaruju se kontakti sa slicnim > ljudima (udrugama) po svijetu
>
 
>
>
detalji se moze naci na sajtovima tih > organizacija
>
 
>
 
>
kajaznam, mozda vec znate za to
>
 
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>
 
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kada su otprilike ti seminari i gdje Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 13:34:35 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 14 Mar 2001 05:34:35 -0800 Subject: seminari Message-ID: <20010314133435.2353.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Mon, 12 March 2001, "Stjepan" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
ola
>
 
>
jucer sam u mocvari sreo Lubica koji vozi kombi > zelene akcije i kaze da nema problema za prevoz stolova, samo mu trebamo > javiti navrijeme...
>
 
>
uglavnom, kroz razgovor skuzio sam da on i teo > (i gomila drugih ljudi) idu na neki seminar neke njemacke fondacije, a na takvim > mjestima se da puno toga korisnog nauciti
>
po europi se konstantno organiziraju slicni > seminari gdje se odrzavaju razne radionice (fundraiseing, organizacija > protesta, projekata, kampanja, uredski poslovi...) i di koja drektna > akcija
>
namjena je obuka aktivista (u "green mean > fighting machine")
>
organizatori su vece udruge tipa EYFA, > Greenpeace... ili same fondacije
>
obicno placaju putne troskove i > boravak
>
 
>
mogao bi nas probat staviti na liste NGO-a > cije aktiviste pozivaju, al bilo bi pozeljno da je udruga > registrirana?
>
 
>
bio sam na par takvih seminara i svakom ih > preporucam. to su uglavnom mladi ljudi i velikom vecinom su vegetarijanci ili > vegani. znaci: dobro drusto, zezancija (guzica ti vidi svijeta), sticanje > prakticnog znanja i najvaznije- ostvaruju se kontakti sa slicnim > ljudima (udrugama) po svijetu
>
 
>
>
detalji se moze naci na sajtovima tih > organizacija
>
 
>
 
>
kajaznam, mozda vec znate za to
>
 
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kada su otprilike ti seminari i gdje Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 21:49:34 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Stjepan) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:49:34 +0100 Subject: seminari References: <20010314133449.9434.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <001d01c0acd0$f9513e00$2889bfd5@stjepanv> | kada su otprilike ti seminari i gdje | nebi ti znao rec jer nemam nista o aktualnoj godini ali znan da su najcesce tokom ferija From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Wed Mar 14 22:22:27 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:22:27 +0100 Subject: ohladili smo malo, ha? Message-ID: <00ad01c0acd6$9dda92a0$b696bfd5@xx> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C0ACDD.A24ED880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI Nesto se smanjio broj poruka na listu i to je dobro doslo kao mala = pauza... Inace, mene je na vikend uhvatila uzasna gripa i nekoliko sam dana = prelezao u groznici i prilicnim bolovima. Trenutno se oporavljam pa se = nadam da ce netko drugi moci pomoci oko standa na Cvjetnom, jer se ne = bih volio zezati posto me stvarno jako spucalo. Ovako nisam nikad bio = bolestan. Stvarno je bilo gadno... Zato bi bilo dobro da se netko drugi = javi... I zbog te moje bolesti propao je dogovor da odemo razvaliti bravu od = restorana i da prebacimo opremu od Tamare do ureda. Nadam se da cu u = petak biti koliko toliko zdraviji da barem to nekako sredimo zajedno. Kad cemo na sastanak? U subotu ili u petak?=20 Nadam se da niste i vi svi bolesni, pa prema tome javite se na raport! 'denja, domagoj ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C0ACDD.A24ED880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Nešto se smanjio broj poruka na = listu i to je dobro=20 došlo kao mala pauza...
 
Inace, mene je na vikend uhvatila = uzasna gripa i=20 nekoliko sam dana prelezao u groznici i prilicnim bolovima. Trenutno se=20 oporavljam pa se nadam da ce netko drugi moci pomoci oko standa na = Cvjetnom, jer=20 se ne bih volio zezati posto me stvarno jako spucalo. Ovako = nisam=20 nikad bio bolestan. Stvarno je bilo gadno... Zato bi bilo dobro da se = netko=20 drugi javi...
 
I zbog te moje bolesti propao je = dogovor da odemo=20 razvaliti bravu od restorana i da prebacimo opremu od Tamare do ureda. = Nadam se=20 da cu u petak biti koliko toliko zdraviji da barem to nekako sredimo=20 zajedno.
 
Kad cemo na sastanak? U subotu ili u = petak?=20
 
Nadam se da niste i vi svi bolesni, pa = prema tome=20 javite se na raport!
'đenja,
domagoj
------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C0ACDD.A24ED880-- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 05:03:56 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Margareta Isaksson) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:03:56 +0100 Subject: ActionAlert: Urge Bush To Stop Global Warming References: <200103142142.f2ELgcq15478@greenpeaceusa.2rad.net> Message-ID: <008a01c0ad0d$57d179e0$70a871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> > Greenpeace USA Action Alert > 14 March 2001 > > > Urge President Bush To Stop Global Warming > http://www.greenpeaceusa.org/takeaction/co2.htm > (Take Action Immediately!) > > > Even though man-made carbon dioxide is the main > contributor to global warming, President Bush has > announced that his administration will do nothing > to regulate this harmful pollutant. > > Urge President Bush to regulate CO2 and stop global warming! > > > Take Action Now: > http://www.greenpeaceusa.org/takeaction/co2.htm > From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 09:59:08 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 15 Mar 2001 01:59:08 -0800 Subject: domagojeva gripa i sastanak Message-ID: <20010315095908.21822.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Wed, 14 March 2001, "Veganska akcija" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
 
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DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI > VEGETARIJANCI
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Nešto se smanjio broj poruka na listu i to je dobro > došlo kao mala pauza...
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Inace, mene je na vikend uhvatila uzasna gripa i > nekoliko sam dana prelezao u groznici i prilicnim bolovima. Trenutno se > oporavljam pa se nadam da ce netko drugi moci pomoci oko standa na Cvjetnom, jer > se ne bih volio zezati posto me stvarno jako spucalo. Ovako nisam > nikad bio bolestan. Stvarno je bilo gadno... Zato bi bilo dobro da se netko > drugi javi...
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I zbog te moje bolesti propao je dogovor da odemo > razvaliti bravu od restorana i da prebacimo opremu od Tamare do ureda. Nadam se > da cu u petak biti koliko toliko zdraviji da barem to nekako sredimo > zajedno.
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Kad cemo na sastanak? U subotu ili u petak? >
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Nadam se da niste i vi svi bolesni, pa prema tome > javite se na raport!
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'đenja,
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domagoj
nadam se da ęe domagoj vrlo brzo pobijediti te gripozne viruse i da stvarno, kad ęe sastanak? iako sam tek bio na jednom vasem sastanku volio bih opet doci i sudjelovati u vasem radu no problem je sto sam ja iz slavonskog broda pa ako je ikako moguce da sastanak bude u petak jer sam prljav i švorc pa moram u subotu kuci po svjezi kapital i cistu odjecu ( a i najbolji prijatelj mi slavi rodjendan). pozdrav mladen Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 09:59:08 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 15 Mar 2001 01:59:08 -0800 Subject: domagojeva gripa i sastanak Message-ID: <20010315095908.21822.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Wed, 14 March 2001, "Veganska akcija" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
 
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DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI > VEGETARIJANCI
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Nešto se smanjio broj poruka na listu i to je dobro > došlo kao mala pauza...
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Inace, mene je na vikend uhvatila uzasna gripa i > nekoliko sam dana prelezao u groznici i prilicnim bolovima. Trenutno se > oporavljam pa se nadam da ce netko drugi moci pomoci oko standa na Cvjetnom, jer > se ne bih volio zezati posto me stvarno jako spucalo. Ovako nisam > nikad bio bolestan. Stvarno je bilo gadno... Zato bi bilo dobro da se netko > drugi javi...
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I zbog te moje bolesti propao je dogovor da odemo > razvaliti bravu od restorana i da prebacimo opremu od Tamare do ureda. Nadam se > da cu u petak biti koliko toliko zdraviji da barem to nekako sredimo > zajedno.
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Kad cemo na sastanak? U subotu ili u petak? >
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Nadam se da niste i vi svi bolesni, pa prema tome > javite se na raport!
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'đenja,
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domagoj
nadam se da ęe domagoj vrlo brzo pobijediti te gripozne viruse i da stvarno, kad ęe sastanak? iako sam tek bio na jednom vasem sastanku volio bih opet doci i sudjelovati u vasem radu no problem je sto sam ja iz slavonskog broda pa ako je ikako moguce da sastanak bude u petak jer sam prljav i švorc pa moram u subotu kuci po svjezi kapital i cistu odjecu ( a i najbolji prijatelj mi slavi rodjendan). pozdrav mladen Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 10:04:42 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (mladen katani) Date: 15 Mar 2001 02:04:42 -0800 Subject: seminari Message-ID: <20010315100442.22033.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Wed, 14 March 2001, "Stjepan" wrote: > > | kada su otprilike ti seminari i gdje > | > nebi ti znao rec jer nemam nista o aktualnoj godini > ali znan da su najcesce tokom ferija > Super!! pozdrav mladen > > _______________________________________________ > Prava-zivotinja mailing list > Prava-zivotinja@zamir.net > http://inje.iskon.hr/mailman/listinfo/prava-zivotinja Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 17:33:05 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Kornelija Passek) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 101 17:33:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: sastanak? Message-ID: <200103151633.RAA11512@atila.irb.hr> Kada? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kornelija Passek Theoretical Physics Division Rudjer Boskovic Institute, Zagreb, Croatia E-mail: passek@thphys.irb.hr -------------------------------------------------------------------- From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 16:35:12 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:35:12 +0100 Subject: Brazilian Rainforest Message-ID: this is important stuff, and we all need to play out part. I know you all know that, and I also realise we are all busy people. But if you can spare the time. It is an important issue Gwendoline May we all stay in the Light with statement, truth and Divine unconditional Love. Hi Friends! Please read and sign this , thank you! The Little House Of Avalon/ Bernadette and Anthony The Brazilian congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the Amazon forest to 50% of its size. It will take 1 min to read please put your names on the list and forward this on. (YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT GREENPEACE IS currently BOYCOTTING HARDWOOD FROM THE REGION). The area to be deforested is 4 times the size of Portugal and would be mainly used for agriculture and pastures for livestock. All the wood is to be sold to international markets in the form of wood chips, by multinational companies. The truth is that the soil in the Amazon forest is useless without the forest itself. Its quality is very acidic and the region is prone to constant floods. At this time more than 160.000 square kilometres deforested with the same purpose are abandoned and in the process of becoming deserts. Deforestation (and the subsequent processing of the woodchips) on this scale will also release a huge amount of carbon (which is currently locked up in the wood) back into the atmosphere worsening the problem of climate change. We cannot let this happen. 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Cvijeta Stern, Zagreb, Croatia From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 17:48:28 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Veganska akcija) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:48:28 +0100 Subject: domagojeva gripa i sastanak References: <20010315095908.21822.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <001701c0ad78$58d66420$9996bfd5@xx> DA KLAONICE IMAJU STAKLENE ZIDOVE SVI LJUDI BI BILI VEGETARIJANCI > nadam se da ęe domagoj vrlo brzo pobijediti te gripozne viruse i da stvarno, kad ęe sastanak? iako sam tek bio na jednom vasem sastanku volio bih opet doci i sudjelovati u vasem radu no problem je sto sam ja iz slavonskog broda pa ako je ikako moguce da sastanak bude u petak jer sam prljav i svorc pa moram u subotu kuci po svjezi kapital i cistu odjecu ( a i najbolji prijatelj mi slavi rodjendan). > pozdrav mladen Bok Mladene, mozemo su naci i u petak (u manjem broju) posto trebamo dogovoriti ono postavljanje standa kod tebe u Brodu, a u subotu neka ostane sastanak posto sam razgovarao s par ljudi i svima odgovara subota, a ne petak. Najbolje je da se nademo nas dvojica i ako moze jos netko u petak, a svi ostali neka dodu u subotu. Mozes me nazvati na 091 5397 222 da se dogovorimo kad da se nademo posto mislim da necu biti na Cvjetnom trgu jer sam prehladen (jos uvijek malo). Mozemo se naci sutra ujutro oko 11, ali se prije toga moramo cuti da potvrdimo. I zamolio bih te jednu stvar kod slanja poruka - kad odgovaras na neku poruku nastoj obrisati stari text prije texta koji ces ti napisati. Jer ovako dobijamo jako dugacke poruke, a vec smo ih procitali, a osim toga lakse je citati tvoj odgovor ako nema tih starih dijelova. Cujemo se/citamo se, Domagoj From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 21:43:20 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:43:20 +0000 Subject: sastanak (+ latinica) References: <20010315095908.21822.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: <3AB13771.871BAB6B@globalnet.hr> mladen katani wrote: > kad ęe sastanak? Sastanak ipak u subotu (nekoliko ljudi ne moze u petak), vjerojatno u 17h, nece pogrijesiti ni tko dodje u 18h. Mjesto - 'ured', Gunduliceva 21A, pozdravis portira i odes u podrum. Nece zvisiti ni Mladen, Taric ce se s njim naci u petak. Ne znam sto je na dnevnom redu, ali nije lose vec ni da se vidimo i pogledamo tu opremu koju smo dobili. (Taric - razmisli o dnevnom redu...) ------------------- Jos nesto: vidio sam na tv najavu za Latinicu u petak - tema kravlje ludilo! Vrijedi pogledati. Steta sto nismo ubacili nekog od nas (preko Tariceve veze...) da kaze nesto iz kuta prava zivotinja. Da je udruga registrirana mozda bi nas novinari iz emisije sami kontaktirali... I. From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 21:44:13 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (Ivan Gregov) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:44:13 +0000 Subject: radio References: <001801c0aa8e$0b9a1860$3394bfd5@stjepanv> <007001c0aad4$8cc3ba40$6ea871d5@bredbandsbolaget.se> <3AAD787E.F115CBDD@globalnet.hr> Message-ID: <3AB137A6.FD8E5EA3@globalnet.hr> Ivan Gregov wrote: > pa Jamnica ce pojesti sve te stotine kremsnita. Kremsnite su dobile blesavi epilog: Nekoliko policajaca iz osiguranja doceka Janice na aerodromu se najelo tih kremsnita i zavrsilo u bolnici. (Sad kriminalci znaju sto treba koristiti u borbi protiv policije osjetljivog zeludca.) Slasticar iz Samobora tvrdi da su bile u redu. Inace bilo ih je oko 1200 i nesto... U Zg ima dosta beskucnika ili najsiromasnijih koji jedu po besplatnim socijalnim kuhinjama. Mozda ne bi imali nista protiv kremsnita? From prava-zivotinja@zamir.net Thu Mar 15 21:39:52 2001 From: prava-zivotinja@zamir.net (suncana) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:39:52 +0100 Subject: Fw: Veganski kozme